Saudi Arabia bombing its destabilized neighbor to the south

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Rasputin_Vol said:
How so?
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By using your "proxy" argument, you would have to hold any nation selling weapons accountable for the atrocities of said client state. So, using your logic, since the Soviets helped arm Yugoslavia and in turn the Balkan states, the Soviet Union and later the Russians were, by proxy, responsible for the genocide that happened in the 90s.

Or any other number of scenarios that have happened as a result of one nation selling weapons to another. And then you have some really bizarre situations like Afghanistan where both the US and the Soviets were guilty of arming both sides. Or the Bay of Pigs where American backed rebels were attacked by pro-Soviet forces using...American warplanes.

Your anti-US argument is weak. As it typically is.
 
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Grand Vol said:
By using your "proxy" argument, you would have to hold any nation selling weapons accountable for the atrocities of said client state. So, using your logic, since the Soviets helped arm Yugoslavia and in turn the Balkan states, the Soviet Union and later the Russians were, by proxy, responsible for the genocide that happened in the 90s.

Or any other number of scenarios that have happened as a result of one nation selling weapons to another. And then you have some really bizarre situations like Afghanistan where both the US and the Soviets were guilty of arming both sides. Or the Bay of Pigs where American backed rebels were attacked by pro-Soviet forces using...American warplanes.

Your anti-US argument is weak. As it typically is.
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Uhh, I actually can't disagree with any of the other scenarios you highlighted above. The are all perfect examples of countries using proxies and therefore, having blood on their hands as a result.

We finally agree on something.
 
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Grand Vol said:
By using your "proxy" argument, you would have to hold any nation selling weapons accountable for the atrocities of said client state. So, using your logic, since the Soviets helped arm Yugoslavia and in turn the Balkan states, the Soviet Union and later the Russians were, by proxy, responsible for the genocide that happened in the 90s.

Or any other number of scenarios that have happened as a result of one nation selling weapons to another. And then you have some really bizarre situations like Afghanistan where both the US and the Soviets were guilty of arming both sides. Or the Bay of Pigs where American backed rebels were attacked by pro-Soviet forces using...American warplanes.

Your anti-US argument is weak. As it typically is.
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This is the kind of nonsense that will kill us all...

Former CIA Director And Hillary Supporter: "We Should Kill Russians And Iranians Covertly"
 
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lawgator1 said:
This could ignite a major war between Saudi Arabia and Iran. Iran backs the Houthi rebels which are causing the problem on the border. Meanwhile, in Iraq, we are working with the Iranians to defeat ISIS. Our efforts to help push back ISIS in Tikrit are causing some within the Iraq military to backlash against us there.

The entire ME is one gigantic cluster f***.
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Just what Hillary the Middle East Arms Dealer wanted.

Hillary Clinton's State Department Armed Saudi Arabia to the Teeth - FPIF
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The issue with the Saudis acting in their realm of influence that we are arming the Saudis, and therefore meddling in a situation by proxy that has nothing to do with us.
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When our ally Saudi Arabia bombs a funeral in Yemen with our weapons, we don't understand why Yemen would hold us [partially] accountable. When rebels in Yemen attack us with Iran's weapons, we hold Iran accountable.
 
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Saudi Coalition Crumbles In Yemen: Sudanese Mercenaries On Front Lines, Foreign Officers, Proxies In Revolt

Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir has been dubbed "president of the mercenaries" for accepting over $2.2 billion from Saudi Arabia and Qatar in order to provide canon fodder for the Saudi ground war in Yemen in the form of thousands of young Sudanese troops, but he's threatening revolt. To escape his untenable position, he is reportedly seeking help from Putin.

At home, Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir is also having second thoughts. He remembers the lifeline he got when Riyadh deposited $1bn in Sudan's Central Bank two years ago, followed by Qatar's $1.22bn. But he hardly enjoys being known as "president of the mercenaries," and he has other relationships to consider.

On Thursday, Bashir became the latest of a procession of Arab leaders to beat a path to Vladimir Putin's door. He told the Russian president he needed protection from the US, was against confrontation with Iran, and supported the policy of keeping Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in power. This follows an incident at home, which was variously described as espionage and a coup attempt. Taha Osman Ahmed al-Hussein was dismissed as the director of the Office of the Sudanese President after he was discovered carrying a Saudi passport and a residency permit for the UAE. He was caught maintaining secret contact with both.
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Fill in the blank:

Bad foreign leader _______ for selling out to the __
Good foreign leader _______ for selling out to ______

funny how easy that shift is.
 
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Mattis: Don't restrict U.S. support to Saudi-led forces in Yemen

A bipartisan group of senators, Republican Mike Lee, independent Bernie Sanders and Democrat Chris Murphy, are attempting to take advantage of a provision in the 1973 war powers act that allows any senator to introduce a resolution on whether to withdraw U.S. armed forces from a conflict not authorized by Congress.

Their resolution would force Trump “to remove United States Armed Forces from hostilities in or affecting the Republic of Yemen,” except operations against al Qaeda or associated forces. Those are authorized under a 2001 congressional authorization.

Their action is the latest salvo in an ongoing battle between the U.S. Congress and the White House over control of military conflicts.
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Forget this 1973 act... what about the Constitution? It clearly states who is able to declare war.
 
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Houthis add fuel to fire with Saudi missile attacks - CNN

On Sunday night -- the eve of the third anniversary of the war in Yemen -- the Iranian-backed Houthi high command unleashed their biggest barrage of ballistic missiles so far in the conflict.

Shortly afterwards, the Houthi-controlled defense ministry in Sana'a, Yemen's capital city, claimed responsibility for the seven long-range rockets, which were fired at Riyadh, the capital of Saudi Arabia, and several smaller Saudi cities close to the Yemeni border.
Saudi defense officials say that all of the missiles were successfully intercepted, but that falling debris killed one Egyptian. The Houthis claim that is a lie, and that some of the missiles did hit the intended targets.
 
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Shocking news...

US Coalition Cooperates With Al-Qaeda In Yemen, Associated Press Confirms

Similar to the US role in Syria, American officials are now apparently quite comfortable admitting they are willing to utilize designated terrorist groups ultimately as a weapon against pro-Iran interests.

Whereas previously the Pentagon and White House (going all the way back through the Obama and Bush administrations) claimed its ongoing 'war on terror' operations in Yemen were solely to destroy AQAP, its double game has clearly consisted in creating a smokescreen of 'anti-terror' propaganda for public consumption (to justify the over decade long US presence in the Arabian peninsula) while secretly allowing AQ and Saudi and UAE partners to do Washington's dirty work.
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Grand Vol said:
You continue to use that idiotic Alex Jones term and it just makes you look even more the fool.

But I'll weigh in on the subject. Who cares? Isn't this an internal matter between Saudi Arabia and Yemen? Aren't you always *****ing about the US getting involved where it shouldn't? So now we aren't and you still want to whine.

If Saudi wants to bomb the crap out of Yemen or Iran or any other nation save the USA or NATO, who are you to question their choices? It appears this is yet another post made by you that you want to scream "OUTRAGE!" while have no clue what you're outraged about. You really are a pitiful creature.
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If I’m not mistaken, Saudi Arabia is actually one of our allies. And if we were to help anyone, it would be Saudi Arabia. Unless something has happened that I didn’t know about.

I’m sure they have enough of our firepower, that they can handle things on their own.
 
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loggervol said:
If I’m not mistaken, Saudi Arabia is actually one of our allies. And if we were to help anyone, it would be Saudi Arabia. Unless something has happened that I didn’t know about.

I’m sure they have enough of our firepower, that they can handle things on their own.
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We don't need to be involved in any regional disputes halfway around the globe. Yemen is of little importance to US interests. And I say that even if they decide to block Saudi oil shipments through the Suez Canal.
 
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