Russia brings the fight to ISIS in Syria!!!

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Russia Deploying Air Force Contingent to Syria | Washington Free Beacon

JERUSALEM—Russia has begun to deploy an air force contingent to Syria in order to undertake air attacks against the Islamic State (IS, also known as ISIS or ISIL) and other Islamic groups battling the regime of President Bashar al-Assad, according to the Israeli news site...

Finally... now we should see an end to the ISIS reign of terror now that Russia has joined in the fight against ISIS along with the US, Israel and their Gulf region allies.
 
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Russia needs more expensive oil to jump start their economy. Dropping a few bombs in the Middle East couldn't hurt.
 
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Will they be fighting the Russians who are migrating to Syria to join ISIS?
 
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Russia is there to help Assad and keep ISIL out of their separatist regions, which are hotbeds for radical Islam. I think you are misjudging their motivations. Russia is there for the ruskies.
 
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Russia is there to help Assad and keep ISIL out of their separatist regions, which are hotbeds for radical Islam. I think you are misjudging their motivations. Russia is there for the ruskies.

But their end goal is easier to swallow than Barry, McCain, and company, who would prefer to overthrow a stable (by regional standards) government and let Syria descend into Islamic dominated anarchy.
 
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So Russia is coming in to help destroy what the U.S. govt help create.
At least Putin has the balls to do something about it instead of attacking from the air. Battles are never won from the air alone.
 
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so Russia is doing the same thing we have been doing, finally helping an ally, and they get kudos for the same level of involvement that we are at?

But I am glad Russia is helping here.
 
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Maybe now that Russia/USSR is with us instead of against us, the end results could be better for both. The failed Soviet invasion of Afghanistan around 1980 was when OBL got his start. Pain in the ass of both super powers.
 
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Russia Deploying Air Force Contingent to Syria | Washington Free Beacon



Finally... now we should see an end to the ISIS reign of terror now that Russia has joined in the fight against ISIS along with the US, Israel and their Gulf region allies.

How naive - ask the Russians how they fared in Afghanistan in the 80's against the ISIS pee wee squad.

ISIS isn't going to be defeated with rockets, bombs and bullets. You can't shoot an ideology to death.

Until the Islamic community rallies against them in an appreciable way nothing is going to change. Killing the leadership just creates a vacuum to be filled by another jihad bent nut.
 
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How naive - ask the Russians how they fared in Afghanistan in the 80's against the ISIS pee wee squad.

ISIS isn't going to be defeated with rockets, bombs and bullets. You can't shoot an ideology to death.

Until the Islamic community rallies against them in an appreciable way nothing is going to change. Killing the leadership just creates a vacuum to be filled by another jihad bent nut.

How Is a multi coalition of countries, led by the US and Israel, doing? That's really the only question that needs to be asked..

A multitude of countries could wipe IS and their ideology off the map within weeks, if not for interference..
 
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How Is a multi coalition of countries, led by the US and Israel, doing? That's really the only question that needs to be asked..

A multitude of countries could wipe IS and their ideology off the map within weeks, if not for interference..

How do you wipe out something that has no boarders, central base of operation, or geographic footprint?

They are spreading ideology and influence via the internet which is consumed 24x7 by young impressionable Muslims, terrorist wannabes and sympathizers. There are no patterns to the growth; pull one weed, 3 more grow in completely different areas.

To suppress the ideology would be to suppress the entire internet; which is a ridiculous notion, at best.
 
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How Is a multi coalition of countries, led by the US and Israel, doing? That's really the only question that needs to be asked..

A multitude of countries could wipe IS and their ideology off the map within weeks, if not for interference..

Who's been stopping Russia, or even precious China or Iran for that matter, in getting involved in Syria?

Russia can do whatever the **** it wants in Syria. No one's stopping them. No one has been.

Russia hasn't gotten involved before now because it was politically expedient not to. Take President Cheney's monumental "give-me" f-up and try to compound it by watching Syria burn too, so that it further distracts the US from getting too involved in Eastern Europe, particularly Ukraine. (To this day, I bet Kremlin vodka parties laugh into the wee hours of the morning, talking about what a dumbass Dick Cheney was and still is.)

I think the Russians are finally realizing now, however, (just like us) that when you start something (covert funding/aid of destabilizing groups in the Middle East (just like Iran does), sometimes it gets out of your control.

And now they're worried after seeing the error of their ways. Ergo this recent development.
 
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How Is a multi coalition of countries, led by the US and Israel, doing? That's really the only question that needs to be asked..

A multitude of countries could wipe IS and their ideology off the map within weeks, if not for interference..

Uh huh.

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How do you wipe out something that has no boarders, central base of operation, or geographic footprint?

They are spreading ideology and influence via the internet which is consumed 24x7 by young impressionable Muslims, terrorist wannabes and sympathizers. There are no patterns to the growth; pull one weed, 3 more grow in completely different areas.

To suppress the ideology would be to suppress the entire internet; which is a ridiculous notion, at best.

I see your point, however, with IS not employing a capable air force, missile and air defense systems...how are these renegade surviving a year of (supposed) coalition air strikes?

Even if they are recruiting jihadist over the internet, they're are going to be taking in the likes of teenagers with an attitude. No formal or worthy military training. How are these renegade surviving an onslaught of modern military air strikes?

Someone doesn't want them to be exterminated, imo..
 
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I see your point, however, with IS not employing a capable air force, missile and air defense systems...how are these renegade surviving a year of (supposed) coalition air strikes?

Even if they are recruiting jihadist over the internet, they're are going to be taking in the likes of teenagers with an attitude. No formal or worthy military training. How are these renegade surviving an onslaught of modern military air strikes?

Someone doesn't want them to be exterminated, imo..

Good point.
 
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I see your point, however, with IS not employing a capable air force, missile and air defense systems...how are these renegade surviving a year of (supposed) coalition air strikes?

Even if they are recruiting jihadist over the internet, they're are going to be taking in the likes of teenagers with an attitude. No formal or worthy military training. How are these renegade surviving an onslaught of modern military air strikes?

Someone doesn't want them to be exterminated, imo..

how extensive do you think the air power is we are using on ISIS? we have no "hard targets" to strike. no real supply chains, no C&C structures to target. effective air campaigns have to have something more to target than individuals to be effective. we defeated Iraq with our air power because we were able to take out their command structure and ability to react, radars, radio/cell transmission centers. we have no such targets with ISIS. what are we supposed to be doing, what in your opinion would be an effective use of air force to achieve victory?
 
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how extensive do you think the air power is we are using on ISIS? we have no "hard targets" to strike. no real supply chains, no C&C structures to target. effective air campaigns have to have something more to target than individuals to be effective. we defeated Iraq with our air power because we were able to take out their command structure and ability to react, radars, radio/cell transmission centers. we have no such targets with ISIS. what are we supposed to be doing, what in your opinion would be an effective use of air force to achieve victory?

Israel is conducting airstrikes against hard targets. A couple of weeks ago 4 rockets were fired at an empty Israeli field and it started grass fires. Israel blamed 3 factions on the same day (Iran, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and Syria), so they had no idea who did it. So they decided to strike Syrian military structures and killed several soldiers who were fighting ISIS. I would think ISIS would have been a more likely culprit than Syria.
 
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Israel is conducting airstrikes against hard targets. A couple of weeks ago 4 rockets were fired at an empty Israeli field and it started grass fires. Israel blamed 3 factions on the same day (Iran, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and Syria), so they had no idea who did it. So they decided to strike Syrian military structures and killed several soldiers who were fighting ISIS. I would think ISIS would have been a more likely culprit than Syria.

Why would ISIS bite the hand that feeds them?

It should be obvious by now that ISIS poses no threat to Israel, else, they would have been the 4th suspect in that rocket attack...
 
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