PruITt has the IT factor, will be better than ANY UT HC not named NEYLAND

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Ok, I know some of you are going to call me crazy. It's all good. I still predict CJP will be better than anyone not named Neyland as UT's HFC as long as WE CAN KEEP HIM HERE for atleast 15 years. It will be tough. Lots of teams are going to want to take him away from us. I hope we can keep him here. I am not going to ramble on with words. Here are facts that have happened that lead me to make such a bold statement.
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SUCCESS AT FSU:

2013 DC (1st year) lead FSU D that allowed 170 points in 14 games for 12.14 ppga with 3 RETURNING STARTERS on D

2012 (yr before CJP) Mark Stoops, DC (3rd year) lead D that allowed 206 points in 14 games for 14.71 ppga with 8 returning starters on D

In 2014 (year after CJP), Charles Kelly, DC (1st year) lead D that allowed 358 points in 14 games for 25.57 ppga with 8 returning starters on D

FSU'S recruiting classes averaged 7th from 2009 to 2013, MEANING STOOPS and Kelly had just as much talent and 5 MORE RETURNING STARTERS than CJP ....... (Kelly's freshman class in 2014 was 4th in the nation)
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SUCCESS AT UGA:

2014 DC (1st year) lead D that allowed 269 points in 13 games for 20.69 ppga (couldn't find returning starters on D)

2015 DC (2nd year) lead D that allowed 200 points in 13 games for 15.38 ppga (couldn't find returning starters on D)

2013 (yr before CJP), Todd Grantham, DC (4th year) lead D that allowed 377 points in 13 games for 29 ppga (same as above on returning D)

2016 (yr after CJP), Mel Tucker, DC (1st year) lead D that allowed 312 points in 13 games for 24 ppga (same as above on returning D)
NOTE: Mel Tucker and Kirby Smart were coaching a D that gave up almost 9 ppg more than Pruitt's D

UGA'S recruiting classes averaged 9th from 2010 to 2016. Grantham probably didn't have quite as much talent due to UGA getting better classes from Pruitt's first year to Mel Tuckers first year as DC. However, Tucker/Smart had more talent and allowed close to 9 ppg more as already noted.

Todd Grantham may turn out to be a great DC at UF. I hope not!!! MSU was like 26th in D in 2015 before Peter Sirmon got there in 2016 and turned the D into about 93rd in the country in ppga. Next year, 2017 Grantham lead MSU to the 23rd ranked D in the nation in PPGA!!! Regardless, CJP will have UT's D at an ELITE LEVEL as long as UT can be in the top 10-12 in recruiting every year and 3-4 in the conference every year. CJP is going to make GREAT PLAYERS ELITE!!! (LOOK FOR TAYLOR TO BE A STUD DB and that move to look more genius as the season progresses!!!) I think Kongo is going to be a whole different player this year as well.
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SUCCESS AT BAMA:

2016 DC (1st year) lead D that allowed 195 points in 15 games for 13 ppga with 5 RETURNING STARTERS ON D

2017 DC (2nd year) lead D that allowed 167 points in 15 games for 11.9 ppga with 8 RETURNING STARTERS ON D

2015 (yr before CJP) Kirby Smart, DC (8th year) lead D that allowed 227 points in 15 games for 15.1 ppg with 5 returning starters on D, SAME AS CJP had his FIRST YEAR! Note: this was Kirby's 8th year with Saban and CJP did better his first year with Saban as DC with same returning starters filled with 4 and 5 star guys.

Of course, BAMA had Number 1 recruiting classes all years besides 2015 ( Number 2 ) class. So, CJP and Smart had arguably the same talent to field a D. Yes, it is Saban's D. But, CJP MADE Saban's and Smart's D BETTER!!!

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Other notes:

Most or all of you know CJP assembled an all star coaching staff which MAY BE CLOSE TO or MAY BE one of best staffs or the best in the nation! Butch was full of BS when he said that is what he was doing. The only great coach he brought was Thig as a recruiter and Debord as an OC. Yes, Debord had Dobbs. But, the records wouldn't exist without great OC play calling.

Most of you also know Will Friend was at UGA with Pruitt, Pruitt's first year. Friend's OL's were in the 30s in rushing each of his 4 years at CSU with 5.3 to 5.5 star OL. I mentioned this a while back in another thread. Friend is going to COACH UP THE OL.

Kevin Sherrer and Tracy Rocker may have followed Pruitt to UGA, not sure. Does anyone know? I just thought it was peculiar that all three were in their first year at UGA together. If so, that would be a good sign. Rocker knows D and I am sure he knows CJP is one of the best DC's in college football, if not the best, with or without Saban on the sidelines or on the headphones. We do know both Kevin Sherrer and Tracy Rocker started sames year as Pruitt at UGA and came to UT due to Pruitt. I am wondering why Rocker was FIRED BY UGA. Does anyone know???
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When Mike Bobo and Will Friend left UGA. UGA's OFFENSE WENT DOWN 15.7 PPG. They were both in their 3rd year at UGA. Let that sink in for a moment. Another food for thought, CSU'S rushing offense rushed for 194 a game last year. They just rushed for 116 against Hawaii that GAVE UP 210 RUSHING YARDS per game last season. Maybe Mike Bobo isn't all that great of a HC/OC without Will Friend. We will find out soon. Maybe Will Friend was the master behind the curtain and Pruitt plucked him from CSU to be Co-Offensive Coordinator with Helton. I am not an insider. But, I bet that is the reason CJP didn't get along with Richt and respect him was due to some offensive inadequacies. Richt is a great man and great coach. But, he isn't an elite coach. There is a difference between great and ELITE!!! I bet CJP wanted some things done differently on O or D to dictate the games to get the W's. Maybe Pruitt had a problem with Richt letting Will Friend go. The games UGA lost Pruitt's last year was primarily because of Georgia's offense, NOT PRUITT'S D!!! Can you guys say, hmmmm??? Give that a thought for a while!!! =)

WILL FRIEND'S OLs at Georgia in RUSHING YARDAGE:

2011 47th
2012 38th
2013 54th
2014 11th

AFTER being 37th in 2007, 59th in 2008, 58th in 2009, and 76th in 2010 (Bobo's other 4 years as UGA's OC). Will Friend's OL COACHING AT UGA played a HUGE ROLE in Bobo getting HC job at CSU and CSU'S Offensive success the last three years at CSU, bank on it!!!

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Helton has said that CJP HAS A GREAT OFFENSIVE MIND!!! That would make sense. Right? You have to know offense inside and out to be AN ELITE DC!!!

Predictions:

Guys and Volly (only gal I know on here, LOL), CJP is atmospheres above all in knowledge and schemes than what we have had in a decade. Think about what caliber of coach that was hired in CDD and CBJ and most of the assistants. They didn't really do that much in very weak conferences. Think about what CJP has done in 5 short years as a DC. He has rose to the top quicker than any, even Smart!!! When Jimbo Fisher, Mark Richt, and Nick Saban want you as there DC and can pretty much have anyone in the country they want. You are an ELITE DC and have an ELITE DEFENSIVE MIND. Everyone knows D wins championships.

VOLS WIN AT LEAST 8 THIS YEAR!!! Wins vs ETSU, UTEP, Charlotte, UK, MIZZ, and VU, losses to UGA and UA, and pick up two more wins between games with WVU, UF, AU, and USC.

PruITt has the IT that will WIN BIG HERE and it will happen very SOON. That soon is happening this year. Unlike, the soon that never happened with Gruden!!!

By the way, Saban went 7-6 with two 5 star players and thirty 4 star players on the Bama roster his first year. PruITt has a roster this year with UT that has three 5 star players and thirty two 4 star players. Will he do as good as Saban did his first year? I am predicting he will. We shall see!!! =)

GO VOLS!!!
 
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Eh. Some of those jumps in ppg is negligible like granthams 2nd and the second half of his 3rd year were really good. His 4th year was replacing a lot of players from the sec runner up team. He’s undoubtedly a good dc. But so much more goes into being a hc to just go off of dc success. Way to many coordinators have failed. He knows defense now can he manage a roster, 105 egos, coaches, media.
His recent media relations with Rucker is cute now, but will get old if he doesn’t follow that up with 10+ win seasons. Can’t be a prick and slightly above average
 
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Thanks ‘89. Great post and a lot of good research and info. Wish I would have made my coffee before starting to read this. I’m all in!

Go Vols!
 
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I agree ha can be special. He has an air about him that screams football coach. On all accounts he is hard working, detailed oriented, focused , determined, and his kids love him. He seems to have been born to coach football, and I think he has surrounded himself with the people he needs to coach at the highest level (all the way down to his wife Casey who sounds like a gem too). I share your excitement and enthusiasm and hope we get to see the results of CJPs hard work and smart coaching this Saturday. I’m not throwing in the towel if we don’t stomp WV, but I’d be shocked if we don’t see a completely different brand of football from the boys in Orange and White on September 1. I think he’s already got em coached up to Play hard nosed old school football. I keep warning the WV fans that are brave enough to come to Volnation that their in for a dog fight and to expect to leave Charlotte black and blue...they have been advised that WGWTFA
 
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Negan said:
Thanks ‘89. Great post and a lot of good research and info. Wish I would have made my coffee before starting to read this. I’m all in!

Go Vols!
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Thanks Negan and all of you!!! I added some stats in to ORIGINAL POST in BOLD ORANGE about WILL FRIEND turning around UGA's OL and thoughts on it being KEY to UGA's offensive success Bobo's and Friend's last year there. Again, I think Richt letting Friend get away with Bobo was a HUGE REASON (probably not the only one) behind CJP's and CMR's dislike for each other!!! I am ALSO CONFIDENT FRIEND will do GREAT things with OL and UT WILL RUN ALL OVER WVU in 3 days, 8 hours, and 18 minutes!!! =)
 
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My gut tells me a lot of what OP says is right. Think how fast he gets there has a lot to do with Y1. Need to win one of the wvu or UF games to give our guys some momentum.
 
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VolsGrad1989 said:
Ok, I know some of you are going to call me crazy. It's all good. I still predict CJP will be better than anyone not named Neyland as UT's HFC as long as WE CAN KEEP HIM HERE for atleast 15 years. It will be tough. Lots of teams are going to want to take him away from us. I hope we can keep him here. I am not going to ramble on with words. Here are facts that have happened that lead me to make such a bold statement.
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SUCCESS AT FSU:

2013 DC (1st year) lead FSU D that allowed 170 points in 14 games for 12.14 ppga with 3 RETURNING STARTERS on D

2012 (yr before CJP) Mark Stoops, DC (3rd year) lead D that allowed 206 points in 14 games for 14.71 ppga with 8 returning starters on D

In 2014 (year after CJP), Charles Kelly, DC (1st year) lead D that allowed 358 points in 14 games for 25.57 ppga with 8 returning starters on D

FSU'S recruiting classes averaged 7th from 2009 to 2013, MEANING STOOPS and Kelly had just as much talent and 5 MORE RETURNING STARTERS than CJP ....... (Kelly's freshman class in 2014 was 4th in the nation)
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SUCCESS AT UGA:

2014 DC (1st year) lead D that allowed 269 points in 13 games for 20.69 ppga (couldn't find returning starters on D)

2015 DC (2nd year) lead D that allowed 200 points in 13 games for 15.38 ppga (couldn't find returning starters on D)

2013 (yr before CJP), Todd Grantham, DC (4th year) lead D that allowed 377 points in 13 games for 29 ppga (same as above on returning D)

2016 (yr after CJP), Mel Tucker, DC (1st year) lead D that allowed 312 points in 13 games for 24 ppga (same as above on returning D)
NOTE: Mel Tucker and Kirby Smart were coaching a D that gave up almost 9 ppg more than Pruitt's D

UGA'S recruiting classes averaged 9th from 2010 to 2016. Grantham probably didn't have quite as much talent due to UGA getting better classes from Pruitt's first year to Mel Tuckers first year as DC. However, Tucker/Smart had more talent and allowed close to 9 ppg more as already noted.

Todd Grantham may turn out to be a great DC at UF. I hope not!!! MSU was like 26th in D in 2015 before Peter Sirmon got there in 2016 and turned the D into about 93rd in the country in ppga. Next year, 2017 Grantham lead MSU to the 23rd ranked D in the nation in PPGA!!! Regardless, CJP will have UT's D at an ELITE LEVEL as long as UT can be in the top 10-12 in recruiting every year and 3-4 in the conference every year. CJP is going to make GREAT PLAYERS ELITE!!! (LOOK FOR TAYLOR TO BE A STUD DB and that move to look more genius as the season progresses!!!) I think Kongo is going to be a whole different player this year as well.
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SUCCESS AT BAMA:

2016 DC (1st year) lead D that allowed 195 points in 15 games for 13 ppga with 5 RETURNING STARTERS ON D

2017 DC (2nd year) lead D that allowed 167 points in 15 games for 11.9 ppga with 8 RETURNING STARTERS ON D

2015 (yr before CJP) Kirby Smart, DC (8th year) lead D that allowed 227 points in 15 games for 15.1 ppg with 5 returning starters on D, SAME AS CJP had his FIRST YEAR! Note: this was Kirby's 8th year with Saban and CJP did better his first year with Saban as DC with same returning starters filled with 4 and 5 star guys.

Of course, BAMA had Number 1 recruiting classes all years besides 2015 ( Number 2 ) class. So, CJP and Smart had arguably the same talent to field a D. Yes, it is Saban's D. But, CJP MADE Saban's and Smart's D BETTER!!!

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Other notes:

Most or all of you know CJP assembled an all star coaching staff which MAY BE CLOSE TO or MAY BE one of best staffs or the best in the nation! Butch was full of BS when he said that is what he was doing. The only great coach he brought was Thig as a recruiter and Debord as an OC. Yes, Debord had Dobbs. But, the records wouldn't exist without great OC play calling.

Most of you also know Will Friend was at UGA with Pruitt, Pruitt's first year. Friend's OL's were in the 30s in rushing each of his 4 years at CSU with 5.3 to 5.5 star OL. I mentioned this a while back in another thread. Friend is going to COACH UP THE OL.

Kevin Sherrer and Tracy Rocker may have followed Pruitt to UGA, not sure. Does anyone know? I just thought it was peculiar that all three were in their first year at UGA together. Rocker did leave UGA to join Pruitt at UT. I am thinking he did the same when he went to UGA. If so, that would be a good sign. Rocker knows D and I am sure he knows CJP is one of the best DC's in college football, if not the best, with or without Saban on the sidelines or on the headphones. Kevin Sherrer did the same thing. He started with Pruitt and left UGA when CJP came to UT.
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When Mike Bobo and Will Friend left UGA. UGA's OFFENSE WENT DOWN 15.7 PPG. They were both in their 3rd year at UGA. Let that sink in for a moment. Another food for thought, CSU'S rushing offense rushed for 194 a game last year. They just rushed for 116 against Hawaii that GAVE UP 210 RUSHING YARDS per game last season. Maybe Mike Bobo isn't all that great of a HC/OC without Will Friend. We will find out soon. Maybe Will Friend was the master behind the curtain and Pruitt plucked him from CSU to be Co-Offensive Coordinator with Helton. I am not an insider. But, I bet that is the reason CJP didn't get along with Richt and respect him was due to some offensive inadequacies. Richt is a great man and great coach. But, he isn't an elite coach. There is a difference between great and ELITE!!! I bet CJP wanted some things done differently on O or D to dictate the games to get the W's. Maybe Pruitt had a problem with Richt letting Will Friend go??? The games UGA lost Pruitt's last year was primarily because of Georgia's offense, NOT PRUITT'S D!!! Can you guys same, hmmmm??? Give that a thought for a while!!! =)

WILL FRIEND'S OLs at Georgia in RUSHING YARDAGE:

2011 47th
2012 38th
2013 54th
2014 11th

AFTER being 37th in 2007, 59th in 2008, 58th in 2009, and 76th in 2010 (Bobo's other 4 years as UGA's OC). Will Friend's OL COACHING AT UGA played a HUGE ROLE in Bobo getting HC job at CSU and CSU'S Offensive success the last three years at CSU, bank on it!!!

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Helton has said that CJP HAS A GREAT OFFENSIVE MIND!!! That would make sense. Right? You have to know offense inside and out to be AN ELITE DC!!!

Predictions:

Guys and Volly (only gal I know on here, LOL), CJP is atmospheres above all in knowledge and schemes than what we have had in a decade. Think about what caliber of coach that was hired in CDD and CBJ and most of the assistants. They didn't really do that much in very weak conferences. Think about what CJP has done in 5 short years as a DC. He has rose to the top quicker than any, even Smart!!! When Jimbo Fisher, Mark Richt, and Nick Saban want you as there DC and can pretty much have anyone in the country they want. You are an ELITE DC and have an ELITE DEFENSIVE MIND. Everyone knows D wins championships.

VOLS WIN AT LEAST 8 THIS YEAR!!! Wins vs ETSU, UTEP, Charlotte, UK, MIZZ, and VU, losses to UGA and UA, and pick up two more wins between games with WVU, UF, AU, and USC.

PruITt has the IT that will WIN BIG HERE and it will happen very SOON. That soon is happening this year. Unlike, the soon that never happened with Gruden!!!

By the way, Saban went 7-6 with two 5 star players and thirty 4 star players on the Bama roster his first year. PruITt has a roster this year with UT that has three 5 star players and thirty two 4 star players. Will he do as good as Saban did his first year? We shall see!!! =)

GO VOLS!!!
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Lotsa stuff there
Of course we all hope you are correct
I like the expression.....The PruITt Factor...good idea for T-shirt’s and bumper stickers.
 
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First, props to you on all the research! That was well versed and very informative to read.
Second, I think you just might be right... We got a 'football guy' as our leader now and I think we're in for some BIG things.

GBO!!
 
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To be fair, OP, I could read this same thread here on Kiffin, Dooley, and especially on Butch, all 3 were the best coach since Neyland. Nothing wrong with it, all teams do it and no reason not to be excited but I’d hold off on best ever.
 
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Great post! I'm excited about this coaching staff and believe they have what it takes to change this decade of disaster.
 
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