ANTIFA Berkeley

#201
#201
tumscalcium said:
You're going way out of your way to rationalize and defend a violent hate-group.
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Some of you wouldn't get the point if it was stuck in your forehead.

I have never and will never defend a violent hate-group. I have said multiple times that any one who resorts to violence is idiotic scum that belongs in the basket of deplorables. I'm not sure how you can misinterpret that to mean I am supporting them.

What I have said, will continue to say, and is supported by the article you tried to claim I would not believe is that they are a minuscule fraction of the "counter" protesters and that nobody supports their tactics.

The right wing propaganda media machine wants you to believe that it's some big movement embraced by the left that threatens our way of life. That is utter BS and that's a point that anyone with independent thought acknowledges.
 
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luthervol said:
Some of you wouldn't get the point if it was stuck in your forehead.

I have never and will never defend a violent hate-group. I have said multiple times that any one who resorts to violence is idiotic scum that belongs in the basket of deplorables. I'm not sure how you can misinterpret that to mean I am supporting them.

What I have said, will continue to say, and is supported by the article you tried to claim I would not believe is that they are a minuscule fraction of the "counter" protesters and that nobody supports their tactics.

The right wing propaganda media machine wants you to believe that it's some big movement embraced by the left that threatens our way of life. That is utter BS and that's a point that anyone with independent thought acknowledges.
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I've seen you consistently say "right wing propaganda wants you to believe.....," but you adamantly deny there is left wing propaganda?

You bash white supremacists (as you should) but lump them together with all Trump supporters as if they are the majority. Then when it comes to Antifa you at first say you know nothing about them, then defend their actions, finally you admit they are wrong, but you go to the ends of the earth to prove they are a minority and are not representative of all Liberals.

Something about you is off. I've never seen someone be so hypocritical and contradictory.
 
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luthervol said:
What's another video going to show me? I already know some idiot scumbags resort to violence. Those people are pathetic and belong in the basket of deplorables. They in no way represent any kind of left wing movement. They represent an incredibly small fraction of "counter" protesters. I would have no problem with all of the idiots from both sides wishing to carry a stick and beat people on the other side meeting up in some remote area and having at it.

You guys need to step away from the right wing propaganda fear mongering and see it for what it is. The right wing puppet masters know exactly which strings to pull and they have you guys doing quite the dance.
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Explain to me why you think antifa has s only bad because whoever the right wingers are says so? Those videos prove they're bad, it has nothing to do with me listening to anyone.
 
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FleeceItOut said:
I've seen you consistently say "right wing propaganda wants you to believe.....," but you adamantly deny there is left wing propaganda?

You bash white supremacists (as you should) but lump them together with all Trump supporters as if they are the majority. Then when it comes to Antifa you at first say you know nothing about them, then defend their actions, finally you admit they are wrong, but you go to the ends of the earth to prove they are a minority and are not representative of all Liberals.

Something about you is off. I've never seen someone be so hypocritical and contradictory.
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So much wrong with your post.....
I have never denied left wing propaganda. I've only asserted that it's a fraction of right wing propaganda.

I have never once lumped white supremacists with all Trump supporters.

I didn't know anything about antifa, I never defended their violence, and they are a minuscule minority that is not representative of all liberals.

This is just more proof of how quickly you guys grasp as facts complete untruths.
 
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joevol33 said:
Explain to me why you think antifa has s only bad because whoever the right wingers are says so? Those videos prove they're bad, it has nothing to do with me listening to anyone.
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Joe, I can tell I would like you; you remind me of '72.
 
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luthervol said:
Why wouldn't I believe it? It says there were about 100....out of 4000. That's 1 in 40 or 2.5%. They were disavowed by the other 3,900. Or 39 in 40. Or 97.5%. Pretty much what I've been saying. The article also says antifa is trying to put themselves on the map which must mean they are not already on the map. Pretty much what I've been saying. Thanks for proving my positions correct.
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One, I doubt those numbers. I thinks it's quite a bit higher. Even if it's not, that brings up #2....why did the other 3900 not care enough to stop that small fraction of them from beating people? Doesn't add up, doesn't pass the sniff test.
 
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Did I miss where antifa was helping with rescues in Houston?

I mean, they're all about helping the poor and downtrodden. Shouldn't they be out in boats helping folks get away from the flooding?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Did I miss where antifa was helping with rescues in Houston?

I mean, they're all about helping the poor and downtrodden. Shouldn't they be out in boats helping folks get away from the flooding?
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They were counter protesting....er I mean helping. They got taken out by Harvey.
 
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luthervol said:
I would expect to be seen in no other way from your perspective. It's just that your perspective sucks.

It's like the crack head bum on the street telling me he doesn't like my suit.
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I thought in your belief system you believed in taking off half your suit and giving it to the crack head bum
 
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luthervol said:
Why wouldn't I believe it? It says there were about 100....out of 4000. That's 1 in 40 or 2.5%. They were disavowed by the other 3,900. Or 39 in 40. Or 97.5%. Pretty much what I've been saying. The article also says antifa is trying to put themselves on the map which must mean they are not already on the map. Pretty much what I've been saying. Thanks for proving my positions correct.
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How many Germans were Nazis in the beginning? How many Russians were Bolsheviks in the beginning? How many Italians were Facists in the beginning? Do you have an estimation in the percentages? Would you have considered these groups violent? Had you been there at there beginnings, would you have dismissed them as "only trying to put themselves on the map"? How many Germans "disavowed" the Nazis in the beginning?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Did I miss where antifa was helping with rescues in Houston?

I mean, they're all about helping the poor and downtrodden. Shouldn't they be out in boats helping folks get away from the flooding?
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Ummm, that would require work.
 
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southgatevol said:
How many Germans were Nazis in the beginning? How many Russians were Bolsheviks in the beginning? How many Italians were Facists in the beginning? Do you have an estimation in the percentages? Would you have considered these groups violent? Had you been there at there beginnings, would you have dismissed them as "only trying to put themselves on the map"? How many Germans "disavowed" the Nazis in the beginning?
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The only real difference between Nazis and Bolsheviks were that Nazis were national socialists and Bolsheviks were international socialists.
 
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luthervol said:
Some of you wouldn't get the point if it was stuck in your forehead.

I have never and will never defend a violent hate-group. I have said multiple times that any one who resorts to violence is idiotic scum that belongs in the basket of deplorables. I'm not sure how you can misinterpret that to mean I am supporting them.

What I have said, will continue to say, and is supported by the article you tried to claim I would not believe is that they are a minuscule fraction of the "counter" protesters and that nobody supports their tactics.

The right wing propaganda media machine wants you to believe that it's some big movement embraced by the left that threatens our way of life. That is utter BS and that's a point that anyone with independent thought acknowledges.
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You did when you voted last November.
 
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