A boy named Trayvon Martin is shot and killed by neighborhood watch goon

[SDV]

Originally Posted by Slydell

How so? I may have missed that part.

They helped him out at the polls

[Slydell]

Originally Posted by volved

According to his father it was not for tardiness:



link

Thanks, had not seen that story yet.

[Slydell]

Originally Posted by San Diego Vol

They helped him out at the polls

I understand that. I'm sure he had a lot of help as everyone else did at election time. I couldn't make the connect with him approving this outrageous bounty story.

[Dr Dread]

Originally Posted by govols/cc

Sorry but it's the truth.

It's also true that whites are more likely to murder a total stranger. Murder tends to be bad for your health, no matter what the race of the murderer was.

This case would've gotten the same amount of attention if all the facts were the same and the races of the individuals were swapped.

[govols/cc]

Originally Posted by Dr Dread

It's also true that whites are more likely to murder a total stranger. Murder tends to be bad for your health, no matter what the race of the murderer was.

This case would've gotten the same amount of attention if all the facts were the same and the races of the individuals were swapped.

I believe your first statement is totally false. I would almost guarantee it. Because the Hispanic/white guy wasn't robbing the black kid it's a hate crime yet blacks kill whites for a variety of reasons mainly to rob them. Why aren't they mugging other black folks? Most times blacks kill blacks for no reason other than some thuggish bs. The fact is that in our prisons in America the minority is the majority & all people like Sharpton & Jackson wanna do is find scapegoats & live off the recent situation in Florida.

[dreVol]

Originally Posted by Dr Dread

It's also true that whites are more likely to murder a total stranger. Murder tends to be bad for your health, no matter what the race of the murderer was.

This case would've gotten the same amount of attention if all the facts were the same and the races of the individuals were swapped.

what..?

[Vols520]

Originally Posted by T-TownVol

One thing that the media is choosing to leave out of this story is that in FL, when a neighborhood puts up a gate, the streets are no longer "public". The neighborhood where the shooting took place was a gated neighborhood.
Another fact that the media is leaving out is that Zimmerman was completely calm and business like on the 911 call.
TM was also on a five day suspension from his school. he is not the "model kid" that he is being portrayed as by the Sharptons of the world.
Bottom line, Zimmerman had EVERY right to ask TM why he was in the PRIVATE neighborhood. All TM had to do was tell him and all this would not have happened. Zimmerman had left TM alone and was an his way back to his truck to wait for the polce to arrive. TM attacked him and Zimmerman made a bad decision when he felt his life was in danger.
There is blame on both sides, but not the outrage that the media and Sharpton have whipped up.

He wasnt calm and business like. He cussed and sounded flustered. You are reaching.

[ScornedPapaVol]

Originally Posted by hndog609

This is all such a mess now I seriously wonder if we'll ever really know what happened without somebody skewing it one way or the other.

A homicide happened. Or, better yet, see the thread title.

[TheDeeble]

Originally Posted by Dr Dread

This case would've gotten the same amount of attention if all the facts were the same and the races of the individuals were swapped.

I strongly disagree.

[ScornedPapaVol]

Originally Posted by govols/cc

I believe your first statement is totally false. I would almost guarantee it. Because the Hispanic/white guy wasn't robbing the black kid it's a hate crime yet blacks kill whites for a variety of reasons mainly to rob them. Why aren't they mugging other black folks? Most times blacks kill blacks for no reason other than some thuggish bs. The fact is that in our prisons in America the minority is the majority & all people like Sharpton & Jackson wanna do is find scapegoats & live off the recent situation in Florida.

Most of the times that a young black person murders any other person it is for some sort of gain. Plain and simple. Murder is not normally used as an expression of disdain for a race or creed of people in America (well, at least not that much anymore .....). -- Most of the time that the term "hate crime is envoked", it is usually done so because the crime had no motive other than "hatred" (as in this case). This case involves no threat, no assault, no robbery, and really no violence at all, other than a needless gunshot. That punk Zimmerman could have held the "boy" at gunpoint til the popo's came if need be. He could have put the gun in the 'kids' face and told the 'kid' not to move or to stay on the ground, and then escape when the 'kid' had been subdued. None of those concilliatory events happened, and instead, the 'kid' was simply MURDERED. In my opinion, it will be hard to prove this 'kid' needed to be shot down in the street as the only way to resolve this issue of Z's hatred and violence (and malicious weapon toting). This case should end in a murder conviction. Prison time is certainly warranted for an unwarranted shooting. Then Zimmereman can "express" his feelings abouts certain people where he can get the proper 'rebuttal' that he deserves.

[dreVol]

Originally Posted by PimpVol

Most of the times that a young black person murders any other person it is for some sort of gain. Plain and simple. Murder is not normally used as an expression of disdain for a race or creed of people in America (well, at least not that much anymore .....). -- Most of the time that the term "hate crime is envoked", it is usually done so because the crime had no motive other than "hatred" (as in this case). This case involves no threat, no assault, no robbery, and really no violence at all, other than a needless gunshot. That punk Zimmerman could have held the "boy" at gunpoint til the popo's came if need be. He could have put the gun in the 'kids' face and told the 'kid' not to move or to stay on the ground, and then escape when the 'kid' had been subdued. None of those concilliatory events happened, and instead, the 'kid' was simply MURDERED. In my opinion, it will be hard to prove this 'kid' needed to be shot down in the street as the only way to resolve this issue of Z's hatred and violence (and malicious weapon toting). This case should end in a murder conviction. Prison time is certainly warranted for an unwarranted shooting. Then Zimmereman can "express" his feelings abouts certain people where he can get the proper 'rebuttal' that he deserves.

Are you referring to the following as an example?

A 13-year-old boy who police say was doused with gasoline and lit on fire last week while walking home from school is recovering from first-degree burns to his face and head.

The boy was just two blocks from his home in Kansas City Tuesday when two teenagers began to follow him and then attacked him, his mother, Melissa Coon, said.

Police have described the suspects as black 16-year-olds, while the victim is white.

According to the report, while setting the kid on fire, the teens said, “This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy.”

The PJ Tatler » Dude, Where’s My Hate Crime?

[YorkVol]

Originally Posted by govols/cc

I believe your first statement is totally false. I would almost guarantee it. Because the Hispanic/white guy wasn't robbing the black kid it's a hate crime yet blacks kill whites for a variety of reasons mainly to rob them. Why aren't they mugging other black folks? Most times blacks kill blacks for no reason other than some thuggish bs. The fact is that in our prisons in America the minority is the majority & all people like Sharpton & Jackson wanna do is find scapegoats & live off the recent situation in Florida.

Wow, that reveals a lot.

[Bassmanbruno]

This new witness sounds sketchy at best. And lol @ ttownvol defending zimmerman by making up stuff and trying to twist the story.

[tvols75]

Originally Posted by Dr Dread

It's also true that whites are more likely to murder a total stranger. Murder tends to be bad for your health, no matter what the race of the murderer was.

This case would've gotten the same amount of attention if all the facts were the same and the races of the individuals were swapped.

Got some statistics to back that up?

[tvols75]

Originally Posted by Bassmanbruno

This new witness sounds sketchy at best. And lol @ ttownvol defending zimmerman by making up stuff and trying to twist the story.

I highly doubt a witness is going to come forward in favor of Zimmerman with false information especially with the Black Panthers out seeking revenge.