What if Fulmer goes 7-5

**oklavol** · 10-12-2008, 04:08 PM

Looking at the remaining schedule:

Losses: Alabama
Wins: Miss St, South Carolina, Wyoming, Vandy, Kentucky

Suppose Fulmer survives the gauntlet in November of SC, Vandy, and KY and manages to get to 7-5. Does that mean he gets a raise and contract extension? Do Vols fans start jumping out of buildings? Playing devil's advocate here.

billbattle · 10-12-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oklavol

Looking at the remaining schedule:

Losses: Alabama
Wins: Miss St, South Carolina, Wyoming, Vandy, Kentucky

Suppose Fulmer survives the gauntlet in November of SC, Vandy, and KY and manages to get to 7-5. Does that mean he gets a raise and contract extension? Do Vols fans start jumping out of buildings? Playing devil's advocate here.

Still mediocre, no matter how you cut it. Fulmer needs to retire unless the fan base is happy with this level of performance.

VolByBirth · 10-12-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oklavol

Looking at the remaining schedule:

Losses: Alabama
Wins: Miss St, South Carolina, Wyoming, Vandy, Kentucky

Suppose Fulmer survives the gauntlet in November of SC, Vandy, and KY and manages to get to 7-5. Does that mean he gets a raise and contract extension? Do Vols fans start jumping out of buildings? Playing devil's advocate here.

8 wins for a raise and/or extension so that won't cut it. I have to think a loss to Alabama and the damage is done.

g8terh8ter_eric · 10-12-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oklavol

Looking at the remaining schedule:

Losses: Alabama
Wins: Miss St, South Carolina, Wyoming, Vandy, Kentucky

Suppose Fulmer survives the gauntlet in November of SC, Vandy, and KY and manages to get to 7-5. Does that mean he gets a raise and contract extension? Do Vols fans start jumping out of buildings? Playing devil's advocate here.

Who cares if we go 7-5?? If it wasn't clear yesterday watching our sideline demeanor that we have no energy or heart for the most part, then you might want to get some new glasses. We need new people on the sideline to give us a new energy that we haven't had since essentially when Fulmer was put into the HC position. When the bread gets stale, you go buy new bread instead of eating the old.

Sudeepvol · 10-12-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by oklavol

Looking at the remaining schedule:

Losses: Alabama
Wins: Miss St, South Carolina, Wyoming, Vandy, Kentucky

Suppose Fulmer survives the gauntlet in November of SC, Vandy, and KY and manages to get to 7-5. Does that mean he gets a raise and contract extension? Do Vols fans start jumping out of buildings? Playing devil's advocate here.

0 wins against ranked opponents. It really should seal the deal but at 7-5, Fulmer will be back next year.

Jaytrain5 · 10-12-2008, 04:30 PM

I doubt UT will get it done on the road in Columbia.

Sudeepvol · 10-12-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaytrain5

I doubt UT will get it done on the road in Columbia.

The game may be about who gets the most safeties.

**oklavol** · 10-12-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sudeepvol

0 wins against ranked opponents. It really should seal the deal but at 7-5, Fulmer will be back next year.

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Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric

Who cares if we go 7-5?? If it wasn't clear yesterday watching our sideline demeanor that we have no energy or heart for the most part, then you might want to get some new glasses. We need new people on the sideline to give us a new energy that we haven't had since essentially when Fulmer was put into the HC position. When the bread gets stale, you go buy new bread instead of eating the old.

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Originally Posted by VolByBirth

8 wins for a raise and/or extension so that won't cut it. I have to think a loss to Alabama and the damage is done.

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Originally Posted by billbattle

Still mediocre, no matter how you cut it. Fulmer needs to retire unless the fan base is happy with this level of performance.

I don't think anyone on this board wants to see Fulmer retained, at least 75% don't. I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

Fulmer can still manage to go 7-5 and end up in the Music City Bowl or Peach Bowl. If he gets a win there, 8-5.

8-5 and a Peach Bowl is a pretty typical Fulmer season this decade. I'm sure that is the scenario Fulmer has in the back of his mind. Then what happens? In the past that has gotten Fulmer a pass.

VolByBirth · 10-12-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by oklavol

I don't think anyone on this board wants to see Fulmer retained, at least 75% don't. I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

Fulmer can still manage to go 7-5 and end up in the Music City Bowl or Peach Bowl. If he gets a win there, 8-5.

8-5 and a Peach Bowl is a pretty typical Fulmer season this decade. I'm sure that is the scenario Fulmer has in the back of his mind. Then what happens? In the past that has gotten Fulmer a pass.

It's a valid point and I hear what you are saying. My personal feeling is the unrest amongst donors and fans has reached critical mass. Something has to change -- let's just hope it's the change we want.

Sudeepvol · 10-12-2008, 04:41 PM

I think if Fulmer had lost to Kentucky last year (to prevent us from representing the East) and he goes 8-5 this year, we may have seen a change.

But the fact that he won the East last year will probably keep him around.

VolsSportsFan · 10-12-2008, 04:47 PM

7-5 he's safe. A horrible bowl game performance, say like the 2002 Peach Bowl, might factor into it but I doubt it; though I'm sure a great bowl performance would be used for Fulmer's positive i.e. we blowout whoever we play and suddenly things are "looking up".

I'd go so far as to say that 6-6 he's probably safe, but I'm thinking we lose at South Carolina and at Vandy, to go along with a home loss to Alabama. And that's assuming we can beat Ketucky at home.

Cartervol · 10-12-2008, 04:59 PM

4-8. 7-5 is dream world for this team. They look like they want to pack it in right now. No story book ending this year, just more of the same.

**GAVol** · 10-12-2008, 05:04 PM

He's probably safe if he goes 7-5 because to get to 7-5 this team will have to undergo some amazing improvement. Honestly I think7 wins is a pipe dream.

VolsZealot · 10-12-2008, 05:05 PM

If Fulmer were to get a 7-5 record . I am almost sure he would be safe. Hamilton and co would just say we got off to a bad start because of the new qb, oc, etc...
Things would have to get alot better with this team for that to happen. I am not sure we will get it done against vandy.

ALLVOL1220 · 10-12-2008, 05:06 PM

I heard from a friend who is close with the athletic department earlier this season after the UCLA loss. He said that the latest he heard indicated that if fulmer lost 4 sec games it was all over for him. He has been pretty reliable in the past and if his information is accurate with 3 losses already fulmer is gone for sure. No way we can get past the rest of schedule without losing another most likely to bama