Article:Fulmer Commentary - Page 2

sjt18 · 10-08-2008, 09:41 AM

If I were king, Fulmer would have to win out and hope for 2 more UF losses to save his job... and when I say win out I mean the SEC championship as well. IOW's, there's a 90%+ probability that I would have a quiet meeting attended by all the major stakeholders and Fulmer and ask him to fall on his sword for the good of the program.

utmba93 · 10-08-2008, 09:45 AM

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... Fulmer and ask him to fall on his sword for the good of the program.

Ironically, the main appeal is to Fulmer's willingness to put the program's needs above his own. CPF has to see those needs as divergent. Logically, he has to see that the program is better served without him.

At this point, this needs to happen... somehow.

**dan4vols** · 10-08-2008, 09:53 AM

He can impress the hell outta me if he resigned waiving the buyout 6 million for the love of the unversity. I'd call that credibility.

utmba93 · 10-08-2008, 09:58 AM

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He can impress the hell outta me if he resigned waiving the buyout 6 million for the love of the unversity. I'd call that credibility.

CPF recently donated $1M to the university. If he cooperated and worked in the interest of the program, I wouldn't press him too hard on the $$.

**dan4vols** · 10-08-2008, 10:01 AM

You gotta admit it'd be impressive.

utmba93 · 10-08-2008, 10:37 AM

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You gotta admit it'd be impressive.

I agree. But I'd leave that for CPF's use.

$6M adds up quickly in lost sales (tickets, concessions, etc.) when comparing projections assoicated with estimating the difference between a friendly and a hostile CPF exit. Moreover, Fulmer is likely to stay in Knoxville--and possibly at UT in some capacity.

The Majors' scenario should not be repeated. UT doesn't need to make another succesful, former HFC angry for the rest of his life. Both Majors and Fulmer have contributed too much for such relationships to exist.

JMBIGORANGE · 10-08-2008, 10:54 AM

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CPF recently donated $1M to the university. If he cooperated and worked in the interest of the program, I wouldn't press him too hard on the $$.

I'm starting to think the $1 Mill donation was a publicity stunt to show the fans his loyalty to UT because he was falling out of favor with the fans. He turned around and got rewarded a new fat contract so he's getting his money back and then some. JMO

**dan4vols** · 10-08-2008, 11:00 AM

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I'm starting to think the $1 Mill donation was a publicity stunt to show the fans his loyalty to UT because he was falling out of favor with the fans. He turned around and got rewarded a new fat contract so he's getting his money back and then some. JMO

Bingo!...Conventional CPF supporters would say ridiculous or some other defensive attempt at guising the tainted Vols hero. Like I said if...if...if CPF offers to resign for enough cash to pay off a Uhaul van to haul his office effects to a knoxville storage unit I'll holler he's got cred.

babercr1 · 10-08-2008, 11:01 AM

Anyone else wondering if he'll get them rings for being Knox County champions?

utmba93 · 10-08-2008, 11:11 AM

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Anyone else wondering if he'll get them rings for being Knox County champions?

Farragut looks solid.

BigPapaVol · 10-08-2008, 11:13 AM

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CPF recently donated $1M to the university. If he cooperated and worked in the interest of the program, I wouldn't press him too hard on the $$.

we've been here before. Giving back $1 million after stealing roughly $2.5 million on an annual basis can hardly be called charity.

utmba93 · 10-08-2008, 11:15 AM

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we've been here before. Giving back $1 million after stealing roughly $2.5 million on an annual basis can hardly be called charity.

But really... the contract is Hamilton's fault. Everyone of us negotiate what's in our best interests. Blame the right person. There might be a case there as well.

It's all about the exit strategy and doing what's best for the program.

BigPapaVol · 10-08-2008, 11:16 AM

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But really... the contract is Hamilton's fault. Everyone of us negotiate what's in our best interests. Blame the right person. There might be a case there as well.

It's all about the exit strategy and doing what's best for the program.

I'm not faulting anyone. I'm just saying that I don't view Fulmer's repayment as a donation.

utmba93 · 10-08-2008, 11:18 AM

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I'm not faulting anyone. I'm just saying that I don't view Fulmer's repayment as a donation.

Just a deduction... but with taxes, 6 nets about 4 and he already gave back 1. The bailout is the real winner, I suppose.

BigPapaVol · 10-08-2008, 11:20 AM

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Just a deduction... but with taxes, 6 nets about 4 and he already gave back 1. The bailout is the real winner, I suppose.

I think Fulmer's the winner because he basically elicits the response that you gave or changes some minds about whether he is massively overpaid.