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05-16-2008, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by govols182 They all learned a new offense, right? I guess Crompton proved his talent level by learning the offense faster. I was at the game and yes Crompton did better than both, but that doesn't prove how talented each guy is. All it proves is that Crompton picked up the offense faster. Wait until they all know the offense on the same level and we will see how talented they all actually are. The talent dropoff will not be as significant as people are making it. | no... Coleman's footwork is clearly nowhere close to anything resembling what a qb in even Conf USA should have to be the number one and Stephens has a knack for trying to throw the ball where he shouldn't, or just making a horrifically bad throw that winds up as an INT. Crompton is heads and shoulders above the rest in maturity, confidence, knowledge and talent right now. |
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05-16-2008, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill no... Coleman's footwork is clearly nowhere close to anything resembling what a qb in even Conf USA should have to be the number one
and Stephens has a knack for trying to throw the ball where he shouldn't, or just making a horrifically bad throw that winds up as an INT. Crompton is heads and shoulders above the rest in maturity, confidence, knowledge and talent right now. | Since when does footwork equal talent?
Throwing the ball to the other team doesn't equal bad talent either, does it? It just means he makes bad decisions which would fall in the category of maturity.
I never said Crompton wasn't better than the other two, just that the "talent" drop off isn't as significant as you are making it. |
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05-16-2008, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by govols182 Since when does footwork equal talent?
Throwing the ball to the other team doesn't equal bad talent either, does it? It just means he makes bad decisions which would fall in the category of maturity.
I never said Crompton wasn't better than the other two, just that the "talent" drop off isn't as significant as you are making it. | yes it is.. Having bad footwork takes all your talent away. He would be a mess in the speed of the SEC.
Knowing when and where to throw the ball is definitely part of your talent. |
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05-16-2008, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill yes it is.. Having bad footwork takes all your talent away. He would be a mess in the speed of the SEC. Knowing when and where to throw the ball is definitely part of your talent. | So decision making is talent? |
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05-16-2008, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by govols182 So decision making is talent? | yeah... Anyone can have a laser rocket arm, but if you don't know where to put the ball or when, you're talent of throwing the ball is wasted by not having any mental talents. |
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05-16-2008, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill yeah... Anyone can have a laser rocket arm, but if you don't know where to put the ball or when, you're talent of throwing the ball is wasted by not having any mental talents. | I can see what you're saying, but Stephens and Coleman were having problems learning a new offense and that is the reason why they didn't know where to put the ball. I understand there is more to a quarterback than a laser rocket arm, but learning an offense faster than someone doesn't necessarily mean you are more talented. I think he is more talented right now, but let the other guys learn the entire offense and then we will know how much more "talented" he is. |
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05-16-2008, 07:26 AM
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| I am not sure how good the other two QB's are, but I am expecting big things out of Crompton this year. I have been waiting for this guy to get a chance to lead the offense since he arrived. He finally has full control and I predict he does very well. |
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05-16-2008, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by govols182 I can see what you're saying, but Stephens and Coleman were having problems learning a new offense and that is the reason why they didn't know where to put the ball. I understand there is more to a quarterback than a laser rocket arm, but learning an offense faster than someone doesn't necessarily mean you are more talented. I think he is more talented right now, but let the other guys learn the entire offense and then we will know how much more "talented" he is. | so i can maybe agree with an excuse for Stephen's faults, but the horrific footwork displayed by Coleman can't be explained by not knowing the system. |
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05-16-2008, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohiovol09 Coleman will play and do well if Crompton gets hurt. | uh, no.
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05-16-2008, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by govols182 So decision making is talent? | making the correct decision under extreme duress is most certainly a talent
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05-16-2008, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohiovol09 Coleman should be the #2 man to get as much experience because he is going to lead the train in 2 years. |
Why is everyone so high on Coleman? We haven't seen anything out of him yet to justify it. Stephens has the stronger arm, an extra year of experience and played better in the spring. Stephens earned the #2 spot. Coleman might have won the starting job if Cutcliffe were still here but Clawson obviously prefers playmakers and Coleman hasn't shown that yet. |
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05-16-2008, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gainesvol82 Why is everyone so high on Coleman? We haven't seen anything out of him yet to justify it. Stephens has the stronger arm, an extra year of experience and played better in the spring. Stephens earned the #2 spot. Coleman might have won the starting job if Cutcliffe were still here but Clawson obviously prefers playmakers and Coleman hasn't shown that yet. | I think it's because, when Cut was here, it was all about the present with Ainge and the future with Coleman... and Stephens just kinda faded away in people's minds.
That race between those two will be interesting to watch and I'm sure whoever wins out will be a very good QB. |
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05-16-2008, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gainesvol82 Why is everyone so high on Coleman? We haven't seen anything out of him yet to justify it. Stephens has the stronger arm, an extra year of experience and played better in the spring. Stephens earned the #2 spot. Coleman might have won the starting job if Cutcliffe were still here but Clawson obviously prefers playmakers and Coleman hasn't shown that yet. | Because he's from Chattanooga and because Cutcliffe believed that he had the potential to be the next Peyton...
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05-16-2008, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol Because he's from Chattanooga and because Cutcliffe believed that he had the potential to be the next Peyton... | Cutcliffe has a pretty good record with the qb position. I see no reason to doubt this kid could be special. Some kids take longer to develop than others. |
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05-16-2008, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol Because he's from Chattanooga and because Cutcliffe believed that he had the potential to be the next Peyton... | isnt it interesting that BJ seems to have regressed now that Cut's gone
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