5 Bold Predictions for the Vols in 2008 - Page 13

**lawgator1** · 06-10-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VolBeef88

Would one not think that by the bowl game the players would be better? As a former defensive player I think it is easier to learn defense than offense. Especially on the line. Your defense seemed to get worse not better as the year went on. You also have to take into account that defensive coodinators have another year to learn the Cryers offense and TT and Harvin as well. I think there is a plenty of ? in Gainsville for those who are not as you say rah rah guys.

Ordinarily, I would agree with much of what you say, but there are a couple of exceptional circumstances at work here. First, as to the Cap One game, you have to give Michigan and Henne in particular a lot of credit. He was en feugo that day. Second, Florida's defense seemed particularly lethargic to me for that game. Disinterested almost. I blame Strong for not having them prepared. I'm willing to give him a pass on it since his unit in '06 showed what he is capable of putting together. Hopefully their abysmal performance 1/1/08 has caused him to refocus.

As to the defense getting worse over the course of the year, I don't know what to say. Part of me wants to agree in that they seemed to decline from the UT game to the end of the season. But I'm not sure how much of that is their decline versus, let's be honest, better offenses as time wore on. Kentucky's offense, for example -- and definitely Georgia's -- looked a whole lot better than UT's. So, I'm not sure that our defense got worse as much as the offenses we faced got better. Maybe both?

As to defensive coaches getting more geared up for Florida, I think there is some truth to that. Certainly a lot of Meyer's playbook is now public record. The key difference may be the presence of a viable running game this year. I think Tebow will run very infrequently now. Having to acocunt for legitimate RBS coming out of the backfield with ball in hand is a new wrinkle for the Florida O this year.

Cure all? Remains to be seen. But in terms of defensive planning for us, its an issue for you.

**lawgator1** · 06-10-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VOLinthaATL

If your still allowed on this site then one would have to almost commit murder to draw a ban...

Clever, but I cannot recall in any of my posts in years past ever asking another VN'er whether he has performed a homosexual act on a player, much less called it out by name.

So good for you.

VOLinthaATL · 06-10-2008, 03:36 PM

Timmy's waiting...

VOLinthaATL · 06-10-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lawgator1

Clever, but I cannot recall in any of my posts in years past ever asking another VN'er whether he has performed a homosexual act on a player, much less called it out by name.

So good for you.

I aim to please. It would seem that you do as well.

So good for you.

**lawgator1** · 06-10-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VOLinthaATL

I aim to please. It would seem that you do as well.

So good for you.

I guess that, as antognistic as I know I sometimes am on VN, I have so far refrained from just blurting out knee-jerk "oh yeah, well, you're a homo" type of lines.

But, hey, if that suits your rhetorical style, then by all means go ahead and start in on the "Gayturds," the Tebow-is-gay jokes, and other such nonsense. Oh, wait. You already have.

VolBeef88 · 06-10-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lawgator1

Ordinarily, I would agree with much of what you say, but there are a couple of exceptional circumstances at work here. First, as to the Cap One game, you have to give Michigan and Henne in particular a lot of credit. He was en feugo that day. Second, Florida's defense seemed particularly lethargic to me for that game. Disinterested almost. I blame Strong for not having them prepared. I'm willing to give him a pass on it since his unit in '06 showed what he is capable of putting together. Hopefully their abysmal performance 1/1/08 has caused him to refocus.

As to the defense getting worse over the course of the year, I don't know what to say. Part of me wants to agree in that they seemed to decline from the UT game to the end of the season. But I'm not sure how much of that is their decline versus, let's be honest, better offenses as time wore on. Kentucky's offense, for example -- and definitely Georgia's -- looked a whole lot better than UT's. So, I'm not sure that our defense got worse as much as the offenses we faced got better. Maybe both?

As to defensive coaches getting more geared up for Florida, I think there is some truth to that. Certainly a lot of Meyer's playbook is now public record. The key difference may be the presence of a viable running game this year. I think Tebow will run very infrequently now. Having to acocunt for legitimate RBS coming out of the backfield with ball in hand is a new wrinkle for the Florida O this year.

Cure all? Remains to be seen. But in terms of defensive planning for us, its an issue for you.

My gosh man you certainly are a lawyer... In short you agree with me that there are a lot of ? in Gville.

Remember, I'm not paying you per word or minute so short answers are fine for both of us.

VOLinthaATL · 06-10-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lawgator1

I guess that, as antognistic as I know I sometimes am on VN, I have so far refrained from just blurting out knee-jerk "oh yeah, well, you're a homo" type of lines.

But, hey, if that suits your rhetorical style, then by all means go ahead and start in on the "Gayturds," the Tebow-is-gay jokes, and other such nonsense. Oh, wait. You already have.

I can honestly say this was my first one. And it was drawn by your shnide comment on 3 and 5 star recruits which you know is obviously not true.

VolBeef88 · 06-10-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lawgator1

I guess that, as antognistic as I know I sometimes am on VN, I have so far refrained from just blurting out knee-jerk "oh yeah, well, you're a homo" type of lines.

But, hey, if that suits your rhetorical style, then by all means go ahead and start in on the "Gayturds," the Tebow-is-gay jokes, and other such nonsense. Oh, wait. You already have.

Hey now! Gayturds is part of the sports vernacular now and is FULLY acceptable. Just like bammer is.

**lawgator1** · 06-10-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VolBeef88

My gosh man you certainly are a lawyer... In short you agree with me that there are a lot of ? in Gville.

Remember, I'm not paying you per word or minute so short answers are fine for both of us.

Word.

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Originally Posted by VOLinthaATL

I can honestly say this was my first one. And it was drawn by your shnide comment on 3 and 5 star recruits which you know is obviously not true.

Evidently I don't know its not true. Wait, I mean is it true? Wait, wait, is it false but I think its true? Wait, what I mean is ...

I'll take your last as a sign of maybe a tinge of regret on your part for having maybe gone a little off the deep end. We'll pick up where we should have, which is ...

Who has the better "skill position players," Florida or UT? Be honest. By skill position I mean QB, RBs, TEs, and WRs. If you want to throw in kick returners, that's fine by me, but probably won't help your cause much.

VOLinthaATL · 06-10-2008, 03:52 PM

I think it's Florida, no doubt in my mind but to say we have skill players that are made up of all 3 star players is flat wrong.

VOLinthaATL · 06-10-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lawgator1

Word.

Evidently I don't know its not true. Wait, I mean is it true? Wait, wait, is it false but I think its true? Wait, what I mean is ...

I'll take your last as a sign of maybe a tinge of regret on your part for having maybe gone a little off the deep end. We'll pick up where we should have, which is ...

Who has the better "skill position players," Florida or UT? Be honest. By skill position I mean QB, RBs, TEs, and WRs. If you want to throw in kick returners, that's fine by me, but probably won't help your cause much.

None at all.

**lawgator1** · 06-10-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VOLinthaATL

I think it's Florida, no doubt in my mind but to say we have skill players that are made up of all 3 star players is flat wrong.

I should have said 2 and 3 star players?

VOLinthaATL · 06-10-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lawgator1

I should have said 2 and 3 star players?

**VolunteerHillbilly** · 06-10-2008, 04:58 PM

For the record, it's not that much of a difference for the starters. Now someone else do the two and three deeps and report back.

Vols

Crompton ****
Foster ***
Taylor ****
Briscoe ***
Jones ****
Cottam ***
McNiel ****
Parker ***
McClendon ****
Foster ***
Scott ****

Ayers ****
Williams ***
Bolden ****
Brown ****
McKenzie ****
Wilson **
McCoy ****
Willingham ****
Vinson ****
Morley *****
Berry *****

Gators

Tebow *****
Moore ***
Harvin *****
Murphy ***
Cooper ****
Ingram ****
Trautwein ***
Tartt ***
Pouncey ****
Pouncey ****
Gilbert ****

Dunlap *****
Cunningham ****
Hunter *****
Epps ***
Spikes *****
Jones ****
Doe ****
Haden ****
Pierre-Louis **
Wright ****
Munroe ****

UTK average Offense: 3.5
UF average Defense: 4.0

UF average Offense: 3.8
UTK average Defense: 3.9

UTK overall average: 3.7
UF overall average: 3.9

Vol423 · 06-10-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lawgator1

Who has the better "skill position players," Florida or UT? Be honest. By skill position I mean QB, RBs, TEs, and WRs. If you want to throw in kick returners, that's fine by me, but probably won't help your cause much.

I'll answer it. It's Florida by a country mile.