5 Bold Predictions for the Vols in 2008 - Page 10

TennesseeT · 06-10-2008, 11:50 AM

I mean why can't we get back to the pre-PF days when NC's, SEC rings, and top-5 recruiting classes were a commonplace? I'll tell you why, because they didn't exist.

billbattle · 06-10-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TennesseeT

I mean why can't we get back to the pre-PF days when NC's, SEC rings, and top-5 recruiting classes were a commonplace? I'll tell you why, because they didn't exist.

SEC championship rings certainly existed.

**VolunteerHillbilly** · 06-10-2008, 12:42 PM

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SEC championship rings certainly existed.

Yep.

swampvol · 06-10-2008, 01:00 PM

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I just wonder, do you ever get tired of saying that? I mean, I wasn't here, but something tells me you said it last season, and we only won the Outback Bowl, so by your judgements it was a "so-so season" I am sure, yet I don't see the tailspin you are predicting.

LMFAO!!! You're right.

He said it a lot last year, and the year before that, and the year before that.........

I can't say, though, that I totally disagree with his frustration.

billbattle · 06-10-2008, 01:08 PM

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LMFAO!!! You're right.

He said it a lot last year, and the year before that, and the year before that.........

I can't say, though, that I totally disagree with his frustration.

Yep, you are right, and a few others have joined in since then. And I keep hoping I will be proven wrong, but by the performance on the field.

**lawgator1** · 06-10-2008, 01:20 PM

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In 98 the Vols were picked anywhere from 10 to say 16 or so and most thought their chances to win it all had left with PM. Florida and LSU were heavy favorites to win the conference and contend for the NC out of the SEC.

This year UT is anywhere from 12 to 17 or so. So why is it not possible to think that they could contend this year.

Why am I reminded of that scene in Dumb and Dumber where the guy asks the girl if he has, like one chance in a hundred with her, and she says more like one in a million.

"So you're saying I've got a chance! Alright!"

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Another so-so season and another bad recruiting year will, imo, send us into a tailspin. I think this season is critical in terms of returning to the elite status of football.

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... so by your judgements it was a "so-so season" I am sure, yet I don't see the tailspin you are predicting.

This is an odd situation. If the team does really well, then VRC is proven to have been closer to right than billbattle. On the other hand, if the Vols struggle this year, then thse defenders of the faith have some pretty decent built-in excuses, i.e. that you have the new QB/OC and rebuilding the D line, tough schedule, etc.

If the Vols do well this year (SEC c-ship or BCS bowl game), then I think CPF and the program as a whole are back in good graces with the fans. If the team struggles, and by that I mean going .500 or a win or two better than that, then I think that CPF & Co. have one more chance to ride out the storm and they had better at that point recruit their butts off.

**Lexvol** · 06-10-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lawgator1

Why am I reminded of that scene in Dumb and Dumber where the guy asks the girl if he has, like one chance in a hundred with her, and she says more like one in a million.

"So you're saying I've got a chance! Alright!"

This is an odd situation. If the team does really well, then VRC is proven to have been closer to right than billbattle. On the other hand, if the Vols struggle this year, then thse defenders of the faith have some pretty decent built-in excuses, i.e. that you have the new QB/OC and rebuilding the D line, tough schedule, etc.

If the Vols do well this year (SEC c-ship or BCS bowl game), then I think CPF and the program as a whole are back in good graces with the fans. If the team struggles, and by that I mean going .500 or a win or two better than that, then I think that CPF & Co. have one more chance to ride out the storm and they had better at that point recruit their butts off.

Chances are he is out of chances with any five loss scenario.

I didn't realize we were actually rebuilding our Dline....from where I sit it will be piece meal until we get some more able bodies around.

holdemvol · 06-10-2008, 01:30 PM

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Chances are he is out of chances with any five loss scenario.

I didn't realize we were actually rebuilding our Dline....from where I sit it will be piece meal until we get some more able bodies around.

You think Hamilton has the stones to run him if we go 8-5?

TennesseeT · 06-10-2008, 02:25 PM

Like it or not LG we have just as much of a chance as you guys.

I know you like it here because so many posters suffer from an inferiority complex when it comes to UT/UF. I'm not one of those.

I honestly believe you guys are in for a suprise this year.

**VolunteerHillbilly** · 06-10-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TennesseeT

Like it or not LG we have just as much of a chance as you guys.

I know you like it here because so many posters suffer from an inferiority complex when it comes to UT/UF. I'm not one of those.

I honestly believe you guys are in for a suprise this year.

Because 59-20 and everything they return means nothing in the face of your undying faith in Phillip Fulmer?

TennesseeT · 06-10-2008, 02:57 PM

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Because 59-20 and everything they return means nothing in the face of your undying faith in Phillip Fulmer?

I knew that was coming from either you or rex. Did I say anything about Fulmer? The last time I checked his fat ass didn't play the players did and yes I have faith in the players and feel they're gonna open up a can in Knoxville. Give a kid your tickets so he/she can enjoy them.

I bet you were the kid on the block that ran from the bully cause he got his wittle butt whooped the last time. I was the kid savin your ass.

**jakez4ut** · 06-10-2008, 02:58 PM

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You think Hamilton has the stones to run him if we go 8-5?

to get to 8-5, you have to be 7-5 first. and if you're 7-5 you can wind up 7-6.

and really....what's the difference between 8-5 and 7-6?

nothing. at that point, you're just glad you have a 12 game schedule and you got to go to a bowl and get a check.

TheDeeble · 06-10-2008, 02:59 PM

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Because 59-20 and everything they return means nothing in the face of your undying faith in Phillip Fulmer?

Fulmer's got the game circled. That alone counts for a 30 point margin of victory.

TennesseeT · 06-10-2008, 03:01 PM

**lawgator1** · 06-10-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TennesseeT

Like it or not LG we have just as much of a chance as you guys.

I know you like it here because so many posters suffer from an inferiority complex when it comes to UT/UF. I'm not one of those.

I honestly believe you guys are in for a suprise this year.

I suppose that in a metaphysical and purely mathematical sense, every team playing in a BCS conference has the same chance Florida does. But in the real world, where these games are not independent events (like flipping a quarter, etc.), then I think we can give at least some weight to recent past performance, areas of improvement and decline, etc.

In other words, at this snapshot in time, you are theoretically right that UT and Florida begin next year 0-0.

As to your comment about Florida being in for a surprise this year, please elaborate. Are you referring to just the UT game, or in general?

If the former, please advise why anyone in their right mind would, ahead of the coming game, think that Florida is taking a step back and UT one forward, especially one so large so as to erase the deficit last year (not just in terms of score, but overall performance).

If the latter, please explain the factual basis for thinking that Florida is going to have a bad year. Are you privy to some sort of news on Harvins foot procedure recovery? Have you inside knowlegdeon a running back with a bad test score? Something tangible?

Or is this just wishful thinking by a diehard UT fan who cannot stand the fact that, in all probability (note: probability, not certainty) Florida will emerge victorious from Neyland this year?