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12-24-2007, 12:52 PM
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| glad to hear he is staying. i've never had anything bad to say about caldwell
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12-24-2007, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GAVol  I agree. Losing either of those guys would bother me more than losing Taylor, Luke or Roper. | Take Taylor away and I agree with you, Taylor is much more valuable than Caldwell, I think Taylor's pay would make you believe that, Caldwell here since '95 and only makes $150k, Taylor here in four yrs and Fulmer has him making $175k. Taylor has had more job offers in four yrs than any other UT assisitant in last ten yrs. Caldwell does a decent job I'll admit but he could easily be replaced.
I can't believe CBP entertained the thought of hiring him as his DC. Makes me wonder lil more about Petrino. I can't see Caldwell being a successful DC in the SEC. | 
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12-24-2007, 01:59 PM
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| I disagree completely. Caldwell has done more with less than any other coach on our staff, period. | |
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12-24-2007, 02:01 PM
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| I never thought UT needed 1 coach for DT and 1 coach for DE. It seems like 1 person, Brooks, could coach the entire DL and free up a position on the staff solely for special teams. Same with the TE, why couldnt the WR coach, coach TE as well and free up a positon for Special Teams coach.
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12-24-2007, 02:09 PM
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| is there a limit on the number of coaches we can have or is it a salary thing? | |
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12-24-2007, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovemediocrity Taylor is much more valuable than Caldwell | That is so absurd on its face, it doesn't deserve any lengthy analysis. Just ridicucle and laughter. | |
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12-24-2007, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by oklavol I never thought UT needed 1 coach for DT and 1 coach for DE. It seems like 1 person, Brooks, could coach the entire DL and free up a position on the staff solely for special teams. Same with the TE, why couldnt the WR coach, coach TE as well and free up a positon for Special Teams coach. | Probably because the responsibilities and techniques at defensive end and tight end are vastly different than those of defensive tackle and wide receiver. If having a permanent special teams coach was such a brilliant idea, why do almost no successful programs have one? | |
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12-24-2007, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rexvol I disagree completely. Caldwell has done more with less than any other coach on our staff, period. |
We've always been talented at DE (Little, Ellis, etc.) until the last couple years, we're not too talented now. I'll say he's done 'decent' - I do believe he was in charge of our special teams few yrs ago when they were really bad. | |
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12-24-2007, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rexvol is there a limit on the number of coaches we can have or is it a salary thing? | The NCAA puts a cap on the number of full time paid assistants you can have. That's why nobody has a special teams coach. | |
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12-24-2007, 02:28 PM
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| To be fair about the special teams, after UF they really turned it around once Britton got healthy and we changed our punt protection formation. | |
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12-24-2007, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 Probably because the responsibilities and techniques at defensive end and tight end are vastly different than those of defensive tackle and wide receiver. If having a permanent special teams coach was such a brilliant idea, why do almost no successful programs have one? | I think all the pro teams have one.
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12-24-2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by oklavol I think all the pro teams have one. | Pro teams don't have an NCAA mandate limiting the number of coaches they can have. | |
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12-24-2007, 02:42 PM
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| [quote=ilovemediocrity;1102528]Take Taylor away and I agree with you, Taylor is much more valuable than Caldwell, I think Taylor's pay would make you believe that, Caldwell here since '95 and only makes $150k, Taylor here in four yrs and Fulmer has him making $175k. Taylor has had more job offers in four yrs than any other UT assisitant in last ten yrs. Caldwell does a decent job I'll admit but he could easily be replaced.
I can't believe CBP entertained the thought of hiring him as his DC. Makes me wonder lil more about Petrino. I can't see Caldwell being a successful DC in the SEC.[/quote]
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12-24-2007, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovemediocrity We've always been talented at DE (Little, Ellis, etc.) until the last couple years, we're not too talented now. I'll say he's done 'decent' - I do believe he was in charge of our special teams few yrs ago when they were really bad. | UT had the #1 DE prospect in the nation last season sitting on the bench the entire year, Ben Martin.
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12-24-2007, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by oklavol UT had the #1 DE prospect in the nation last season sitting on the bench the entire year, Ben Martin. | Actually he was the number 2 SDE. He was 5 star though. Ben Martin Profile - Football Recruiting | |
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