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Originally Posted by milohimself It's more the responsibility of the ball carrier to maintain possession than it is the defender's to cause a fumble. Proper carrying technique should practically never result in a fumble; proper technique while playing the ball on defense does not always result in a forced fumble.
I'm not saying it was entirely terrible; there were some good aspects, and some stretches whwere the Indy offense was cruising. But the Bears offense really lost the game. They looked Oakland-bad at numerous points. | yeah, they really did. and indy in all reality should e thankful. they pretty much allowed the bears to hang around the entire game. if they had been playing an offense that could've at least generated a FG in the 3rd qtr...who knows. but i'll take it. it's about time the team i rooted against actually played awful. 
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02-05-2007, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jakez4ut yeah, they really did. and indy in all reality should e thankful. they pretty much allowed the bears to hang around the entire game. if they had been playing an offense that could've at least generated a FG in the 3rd qtr...who knows. but i'll take it. it's about time the team i rooted against actually played awful. |
maybe some of that carma will carry over to some of our SEC opponents! 
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02-05-2007, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by volmanjr [/b]
maybe some of that carma will carry over to some of our SEC opponents!  | that would be great. i'm all for it. who do i need to talk to to make that happen?
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02-05-2007, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tvolsfan Vol Good Guy 29, Hateful Smart Aleck Jerk Gator 17
Someone is a little hateful.  | I prefer calling it defending my territory.
It's puzzling but I think it's a truthful statement to say that a large percentage of the Gator fan base has no class.
Used to I had nothing against Gators. But over the years it has seemed like time and time again Gator fans have been mean, hateful, or just plain nasty.
Years ago I was at a University of Miami vs. Florida regular season game at the Orange Bowl. It was back when Johnny Majors was UT's head coach.
Two Gator fans, who appeared to be students or recent graduates, were standing beside me at the concession line. They asked where I was from. I told them Knoxville. They then began cursing Johnny Majors. I felt a little bit threatened.
Until the Florida fan base cleans up its act and starts having a little bit of class (which is not likely - you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear) my opinion of them is not going to change.
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02-05-2007, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by milohimself Actually guys, what I was saying during the game and now that it's calmed down somewhat, that was an incredibly sloppy game. It really came down to who could suck less. | Other than the fact the Colts dominated the game from the 2nd quarter on, this is 100% accurate.
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02-05-2007, 07:41 PM
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| If they dominated it, why were the Bears within a TD of the Colts in the fourth quarter?
This isn't a game where I buy the "Not as close as the scoreboard indicates" school of thought. The Bears were outplayed for sure, but they weren't put away until late, and even then it was because of Grossman's horrid 4th quarter.
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02-05-2007, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by milohimself If they dominated it, why were the Bears within a TD of the Colts in the fourth quarter?
This isn't a game where I buy the "Not as close as the scoreboard indicates" school of thought. The Bears were outplayed for sure, but they weren't put away until late, and even then it was because of Grossman's horrid 4th quarter. | Even when Grossman was playing well they only had, what, 4 first downs?!?! If you can't score, then 1 point is as good as 10. |
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02-05-2007, 07:51 PM
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| The Bears did not move the ball at all nor did they stop the Colts from moving the ball for the majority of the game. The Colts dominated every statistical category, except the scoreboard, which should've read approximately 42-17 at the end if not for the Colts stalling on a few long drives.
Basically it was smiliar to UT's games with Florida and LSU this past football season. Sure, the scores were "close", but at the end of the game there was no doubt who the superior team was.
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02-05-2007, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Volitics I prefer calling it defending my territory.
It's puzzling but I think it's a truthful statement to say that a large percentage of the Gator fan base has no class.
Used to I had nothing against Gators. But over the years it has seemed like time and time again Gator fans have been mean, hateful, or just plain nasty.
Years ago I was at a University of Miami vs. Florida regular season game at the Orange Bowl. It was back when Johnny Majors was UT's head coach.
Two Gator fans, who appeared to be students or recent graduates, were standing beside me at the concession line. They asked where I was from. I told them Knoxville. They then began cursing Johnny Majors. I felt a little bit threatened.
Until the Florida fan base cleans up its act and starts having a little bit of class (which is not likely - you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear) my opinion of them is not going to change. |
Probably does not help that you appear to have a rather humongous chip on your shoulder. |
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02-05-2007, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 Probably does not help that you appear to have a rather humongous chip on your shoulder. | when it comes to FL, most of us do, or hadn't you realized that by now?
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02-05-2007, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by milohimself If they dominated it, why were the Bears within a TD of the Colts in the fourth quarter?
This isn't a game where I buy the "Not as close as the scoreboard indicates" school of thought. The Bears were outplayed for sure, but they weren't put away until late, and even then it was because of Grossman's horrid 4th quarter. | disagree. up by two at the half, it felt like they were up by 10....conservative play calling in the red zone, not taking advanatage of bears' mistakes in the 3rd quarter etc....kept them in the game. settling for a fg that made it 19-14 instead of 23 -14 is why that game was close as it was....but i know what you mean. they both made enough mistakes in the 1st half to render this line of thought. but the colts dominated the game from midway thru the 2nd quarter on....
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02-05-2007, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tidwell The Bears did not move the ball at all nor did they stop the Colts from moving the ball for the majority of the game. The Colts dominated every statistical category, except the scoreboard, which should've read approximately 42-17 at the end if not for the Colts stalling on a few long drives.
Basically it was smiliar to UT's games with Florida and LSU this past football season. Sure, the scores were "close", but at the end of the game there was no doubt who the superior team was. | Doesn't matter. The scoreboard is the stat that matters. Yeah, Indianapolis kept them from moving the ball, yada yada yada. There the Bears were in the fourth quarter, mid-field with the chance to take the lead. Grossman had two picks and two fumbles that game, and it took that last pick late to finally put the nail in the coffin.
If the Colts really dominated the game like that, with as poorly as Grossman was playing on his own, then it would have been put away with less than three minutes to go. Grossman, the Bears offense (and to some extent their D) handed that game to Indy, much more than Indy took it from them.
Like you've been saying all year Tid, just another example of how bad football is in the NFC.
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Originally Posted by milohimself Doesn't matter. The scoreboard is the stat that matters. Yeah, Indianapolis kept them from moving the ball, yada yada yada. There the Bears were in the fourth quarter, mid-field with the chance to take the lead. Grossman had two picks and two fumbles that game, and it took that last pick late to finally put the nail in the coffin.
If the Colts really dominated the game like that, with as poorly as Grossman was playing on his own, then it would have been put away with less than three minutes to go. Grossman, the Bears offense (and to some extent their D) handed that game to Indy, much more than Indy took it from them.
Like you've been saying all year Tid, just another example of how bad football is in the NFC. | If the Colts feared that the Bears could take away the lead, they would have pressed for more points and gotten them. Instead, they chose not to do anything risky against a team that makes a living off of turnovers. I think the fact that Indy played so conservatively showed how comfortable the Colts felt with their lead. |
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02-06-2007, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kptvol If the Colts feared that the Bears could take away the lead, they would have pressed for more points and gotten them. | Precisely. They threw for 193 yards in the 1st half and 54 yards in the 2nd half. And it wasn't because the Chicago defense put the clamps on them. |
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