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11-14-2006, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Vercingetorix Interesting that the Peach is telling The Tennessean that they're interested in the Vols while simultaneously telling the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that they're interested in Georgia. The Bulldog Nation down here is taking it as gospel that they're in if they beat the Jackets.
Let's hope Georgia Tech beats them, making it a moot point. Our luck in the bowl selection process has not been good in recent years. | Does UGA believe that they're going to beat Ga Tech?
From a geographical standpoint, would seem to me that Music City Bowl is a good fit for UK hopefully putting the Vols in Tampa or Atlanta at worst. No matter how this shakes out, with 9 possible bowl eligible SEC teams some 6-6 team is going to get left out in the cold. |
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11-14-2006, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dobre_shunka Does UGA believe that they're going to beat Ga Tech? | Why wouldn't they after they just spanked Auburn?
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11-14-2006, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by utvol0427 Why wouldn't they after they just spanked Auburn? | The point being do they think they've turned the proverbial corner with the AU win or are they still the team that lost to Vandy at home and had 51 points hung on them by UT. |
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11-14-2006, 12:59 PM
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| Georgia Tech is weak... they will lose to UGA. |
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11-14-2006, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dobre_shunka The point being do they think they've turned the proverbial corner with the AU win or are they still the team that lost to Vandy at home and had 51 points hung on them by UT. | Thanks a lot. I have a migraine from trying to figure that out. I think that the Auburn game is when everything fell into place for them. Something that never happened for us last year.
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11-14-2006, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by utvol0427 My point exactly as far as the 1 loss SEC teams. The other guy thinks that there will be some magical 1-Loss SEC team that should be in the BCS. As for Texas, the website has them listed in the BCS. The only way that I see that happening is if they win the Big 12 championship, that is why I said that they will be Big 12 champs if they are in the BCS, earning an automatic bid not an at-large bid. |
If Texas loses, that means a north division team goes Auto-bid, which means a 3+ loss team is in a BCS, and that should never be, even if you are conference champs. A conference alignment should never be so lopsided that one division winner is 2 loss or less, and the other is regularly 3 or more.
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11-14-2006, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GVF If Texas loses, that means a north division team goes Auto-bid, which means a 3+ loss team is in a BCS, and that should never be, even if you are conference champs. A conference alignment should never be so lopsided that one division winner is 2 loss or less, and the other is regularly 3 or more. | Agree completely. Neither should a team playing Boise State's schedule be considered for a BCS either. The system before the BCS was fairer then this. |
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11-14-2006, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by oklavol The SEC runner-up shoud get an automatic bid to the BCS. When teams like Boise State and Rutgers get BCS bowls and teams like UT end up in the Music City Bowl its time for the SEC to get some backbone and leave the BCS. The system before the BCS was much fairer then what they have implemented now. |
The bowl games in and of themselves were better, had better names, and were more enjoyable than under the BCS regime. Chick-Fil-A Bowl. Woooppiee!! I hate when the sponsors kick out the old time names. Don't mind them sharing. How much fun it would be if Roto-Rooter became a bowl sponsor. That spawns a new HATvol Style thread if I can piece my thought together.
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11-14-2006, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by oklavol Agree completely. Neither should a team playing Boise State's schedule be considered for a BCS either. The system before the BCS was fairer then this. |
Agree completely. Anyone with a blue field is suspect anyway.
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11-14-2006, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dobre_shunka The point being do they think they've turned the proverbial corner with the AU win or are they still the team that lost to Vandy at home and had 51 points hung on them by UT. | These are the Bulldogs...that one win turned their whole year around, in their eyes. It all finally clicked for Stafford, the defense finally played like it's been capable of, etc. etc. Two weeks ago some of them wanted to fire Richt and now all is forgiven.
They could well beat Tech, if they play even partially like they did against Auburn. The game is in Athens and Tech has been a little hit or miss lately. I think Tech is unquestionably the better team this year, but if they played that game 10 times Georgia would probably win 3 or 4. They've got a chance; let's just hope that doesn't end up sending us to the Music City Bowel. |
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11-14-2006, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Vercingetorix let's just hope that doesn't end up sending us to the Music City Bowel. | I really hope we don't end up in a bowel this year. 
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11-14-2006, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by utvol0427 I think that the Auburn game is when everything fell into place for them. Something that never happened for us last year. | I am no fan of Mark Richt by any means, but you've got to give him and his staff credit for getting Georgia motivated and prepared to play that game. I thought that team was going to fold up like we did last year, and they didn't. |
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11-14-2006, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by utvol0427 I really hope we don't end up in a bowel this year.  | Anything earlier than New Year's Day is decidedly a Bowel.
(Including the Chicken Bowel, if that's where we end up.) |
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11-14-2006, 01:27 PM
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| this is ridiculous. if you are in a BCS league and you win that conf., you are in. fair has nothing to do with it..and it's the same system as before. the only difference is that they added a 5th game specifically to allow a spot or two for the mid major conferences to share in the wealth.
this isn't about the best teams playing in the best bowls, this is about as many teams and bowls making as much money as possible. that's the bottom line on this.
and besides, it will all play out in the end. i find it very doubtful that two Big East teams will in fact wind up in the BCS. two Big 10 teams will. that much i know for sure. After that....who knows?
SEC champ--FL/ARK/LSU
ACC champ--WF/GT/MD
Big 12 Champ--TX/NB
Big East Champ--WVU/L'ville/Rutgers
Pac 10 Champ--Cal/USC
Big 10 Champ--OSU/Mich--these are the only two that are going to the BCS for sure.
ND will get in, and BSU (if undefeated that is) will get in both as at larges.
SO, the way i see it, 4 of 10 BCS spots have been filled with 6 still left to go.
OSU/Mich vs. UF/USC/ARK for NT
OSU/Mich vs. USC/Cal in Rose
TX/Neb vs. BSU in Fiesta
UF/ARK vs. ND in Sugar
WF/MD/GT vs. Rutgers/WVU/L'ville in Orange
the trick will be if USC loses to Cal and ND...that takes USC out of it completely and puts Cal in the Rose. it also opens up a spot for ND/UF/ARK in the NT game. which would open up two spots in the Sugar for an SEC at large, Loser of SEC CG or LSU, vs. L'ville/WVU/Neb etc...
point being, there's a long way to go yet.
as it has done over the past couple of weeks, it will all work itself out.
and fair has nothing to do with it.
Keep in mind this is the same system that has gotten 2 SEC teams National Titles.
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11-14-2006, 01:28 PM
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#45 (permalink)
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| Everyone also needs to stop for a second and remember that part of the bowl selection decision is based on which team is perceived to be the best travelling, assure a sellout, etc. These bowls are more about pumping bucks into the local economy than they are about providing the best possible football matchup based on merit. |
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