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| i also have a question about the O&W game, is Volnation meeting somewhere or what?
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04-06-2006, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by (mattvols @ Apr 6, 2006 10:34 PM) i also have a question about the O&W game, is Volnation meeting somewhere or what? |
But I thought...........................
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04-07-2006, 08:52 AM
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| just read an article on govolsxtra regarding the o&w game. apparently the powers at be have decided to scale back the offense to the point where CDC says "....we'll run very, very, very little of our offense".
Cut says he's paranoid about this stuff and that he probably shouldn't have made this public (i agree), but he doesn't want to give Cal any more tape of us than is necessary.
So the fans shouldn't expect to see a whole lot of change on Saturday....
two things:
1. what's the point of having any semblence of a new system if you aren't going to practice it in the only "live" game situation on of the Spring?
2. I guess this means we be scaling back in the fall too? don't want the next opponent to get too much tape on what we're all about?
Most all of you know how i feel about the staff and next season...but i got to admit...this is freakin' stupid.
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04-07-2006, 09:05 AM
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| Same article from Tennessean
I dunno Jake. They are always so vanilla in these things anyway, whats the harm in saying "we're gonna be vanilla" ahead of time.
Besides, I don't think Cut has this offense to a point where it's even ready to really show off yet. He needs the summer practices still to put this thing in place.
Why go out and show a disjointed version of what you're going to be doing, and then let us (webboards) spend two months saying "well I saw it, and it aint gonna work".... |
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04-07-2006, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by (orange+white=heaven @ Apr 7, 2006 8:05 AM) Same article from Tennessean
I dunno Jake. They are always so vanilla in these things anyway, whats the harm in saying "we're gonna be vanilla" ahead of time.
Besides, I don't think Cut has this offense to a point where it's even ready to really show off yet. He needs the summer practices still to put this thing in place.
Why go out and show a disjointed version of what you're going to be doing, and then let us (webboards) spend two months saying "well I saw it, and it aint gonna work".... | that's probably what makes sense....but it just kind of sounded chicken sh_t to come out after all the not so good scrimmages thus far, and say we're "just not going run any of that". it just irked me, that's all.
it almost sounded like, "well if we can't do it now, we're just not going to try".
but what you stated is probably more to truth of the matter...i can see that. I guess for me, we haven't really heard any so called unbiased reports on practice and i was looking forward to hearing/seeing reports from some other views of what they have accomplished, or not, thus far in the spring. and now it looks like no one is going to have the chance.....i want something positive. i want something to feel confident about. And i think most would probably agree that that's what i've always tried to portray when i express my views here.....but it just seems, right now and i know it's way early, there' s not much to feel good about.
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04-07-2006, 10:24 AM
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| So, instead of the usual five plays, they're only going to run three instead? UT scaling back their offense is like an anorexic deciding to go on a diet. |
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04-07-2006, 10:28 AM
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| Scale back hell!
Compared to what our 40 year old, 8 play formation, hypo-underachieving, over used offense?
Now that will be worth seeing! |
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04-07-2006, 10:34 AM
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| a quote from CDC:
"We're going to really limit it from a formation standpoint, a passing game standpoint and probably only take in four or five runs and see if we can execute, be tougher and block and tackle."
he also said that they'll probably run some very basic stuff that they won't even run in the fall?????
Again, i understand.....but it is frustrating.
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04-07-2006, 10:42 AM
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| I'm sure he knows what he's doing, but jake you're right I believe evey UT Fan wants to see more.
I certainly would have expected more results & progress from Cut & Staff. |
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04-07-2006, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by (RealVol @ Apr 7, 2006 9:42 AM) I'm sure he knows what he's doing, but jake you're right I believe evey UT Fan wants to see more.
I certainly would have expected more results & progress from Cut & Staff. | i think we're all a vicitim of the "instant rice" generation. We want what we want and we want it now. The reality that i/we have to come to grips with is that this will not be an overnite process. I do beileve Cut has made a lot of changes this Spring. And as much as i don't like it, it's going to take more than 15 practices to get it down.
After thinking about it a bit, it does make sense for them to go about the Spring game in this way. it will push the offensive line. and by all accounts the O Line is what needs the most work. And from the sound of it, they are going to be forced to push the Defense around based on the types of formations they are going to run. From that standpoint, i understand it. I may not like it, but i do understand.
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04-07-2006, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by (hatvol96 @ Apr 7, 2006 9:24 AM) So, instead of the usual five plays, they're only going to run three instead? UT scaling back their offense is like an anorexic deciding to go on a diet. | 
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04-07-2006, 11:58 AM
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| I am sure I will get flamed off the board for this, and don't get me wrong - I want to see more as well. BUT why don't we trust in them as coaches and teachers and see what they produce. If Cut needs more time I will give it - take the time now to work out the basics and show me the total package when the time is right. There is no use in showing off in the spring game anyway. |
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04-07-2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by (jakez4ut @ Apr 7, 2006 9:52 AM) just read an article on govolsxtra regarding the o&w game. apparently the powers at be have decided to scale back the offense to the point where CDC says "....we'll run very, very, very little of our offense".
Cut says he's paranoid about this stuff and that he probably shouldn't have made this public (i agree), but he doesn't want to give Cal any more tape of us than is necessary.
So the fans shouldn't expect to see a whole lot of change on Saturday....
two things:
1. what's the point of having any semblence of a new system if you aren't going to practice it in the only "live" game situation on of the Spring?
2. I guess this means we be scaling back in the fall too? don't want the next opponent to get too much tape on what we're all about?
Most all of you know how i feel about the staff and next season...but i got to admit...this is freakin' stupid. | If the offense really is as different as Cutcliffe says it is, then it seems like a good idea. Why give them any more help then necessary.
Its hard to believe Fulmer is allowing this much radical change to the offense. I'm a little skeptical that it is that much different. Maybe some different formations, more passing plays, but its hard to believe they have redone the playbook, though most of us are probably hoping they did.
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04-07-2006, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by (oklavol @ Apr 7, 2006 12:23 PM) If the offense really is as different as Cutcliffe says it is, then it seems like a good idea. Why give them any more help then necessary.
Its hard to believe Fulmer is allowing this much radical change to the offense. I'm a little skeptical that it is that much different. Maybe some different formations, more passing plays, but its hard to believe they have redone the playbook, though most of us are probably hoping they did. | If Fulmer has any sense at all, he will take his hands off of calling plays. He needs to go back and work with the OL and oversee them and allow Cutcliffe to do his thing. I am a little skeptical that the offense will be radically different, merely because Cutcliffe and Fulmer have the same roots. |
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