The Florida Vols of Tennessee

[Tennessee Jack]

Originally Posted by HialeahGator

Reports from the Hialeah camp have Corey as a "silent" to canes with Ivan McCartney.

Going to have to favor Smith's "95%" over your mystery source. Thank you for that, though.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by MikeHamiltonFan

Corey may not end up at Miami but I think Ego Ferguson and Arie K will. Randy Shannon is somehow able to keep people happy with middling success in a weak ACC.

Strange...

Why is that strange? We're coming off a disastrous 5-7 season and now 4-4 overall and under water in conference. People are buying into a vision with programs like ours and Miami's.
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[air_force_vol]

Originally Posted by Tennessee Jack

I completely forgot about Chaz Green who seems to be a UT lean by all accounts now. That would put the number between 10 & 11 by signing day.

Really? you think so?

[Tennessee Jack]

Originally Posted by air_force_vol

Really? you think so?

That's what I keep hearing---

parents are UT grads, so obviously like the school. they were unhappy with UT's decline, but Kiffin has shown he can deliver on the field. I've heard the parents don't like how UF's offense doesn't prepare OL for the NFL. I've also heard reports that Green told current players during his official visit that he would be in orange. I've heard nothing recently to suggest Florida will pull this off in the end.

[MikeHamiltonFan]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

Why is that strange? We're coming off a disastrous 5-7 season and now 4-4 overall and under water in conference. People are buying into a vision with programs like ours and Miami's.
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These programs had about comparable talent I would argue when the coaches took over. Both have tons of players in the NFL. Miami has a built in recruiting advantage, Miami also has an easier schedule due to a weaker conference.

In Shannon's first year...

The second game was a 51-13 loss to the University of Oklahoma in a nationally televised game, one of the most lopsided defeats in the program's history.

48-0 loss at home to a UVA team ranked comparably to South Carolina.

Lost six of last seven to not qualify for a bowl game.

Lane Kiffin first year:

4-4 at this point. Most will be disappointed if we did not finish with at least 7 wins. We may live up to my prediction of 8 wins. Most are expecting a bowl victory. We played the number 1 team on the road twice and lost by a missed FG and by 10 points.

Look at Shannon year two:
7-6 and losing to Cal in the freaking Emerald Bowl! Lots of people saw that game as poorly coached.

When he lost to Florida he cried about Urban Meyer running up the score...They lost 26-3.

He also collapsed again late in the season against unranked guys.

Then Randy Shannon follows this up by having a ton of his recruits quit on him. This is not the same as Kiffin running off the weak and the fat from the Fulmer era, this is his guys who he recruited quitting on him because they did not like him. Marve and his father which caused some strain with other HS coaches, then both his backup QBs leave because they know Jacory is the man. He has also burned through 3 defensive coordinators in 3 seasons.

Contrast that with Coach Kiffin.

If Coach Kiffin mirrored in any way the performance of Shannon, he would not last at UT. He is nothing like Randy and is bringing in a class that Shannon can only dream of.

The 'Canes briefly returned to the Top 25 rankings for the first time since early in the 2006 season before surrendering 472 rushing yards—and 518 yards of total offense—to unranked Georgia Tech in a 41-23 late-November blowout loss that eliminated Miami from ACC Championship contention.[11] Tech's 472 yards on the ground were the second most ever allowed by Miami.[11] The following week, the Hurricanes were defeated at North Carolina State, 38-28, in the final game of the regular season.

Miami then received an invitation to the Emerald Bowl in San Francisco, where the Hurricanes fell 24-17 to Cal. Shannon was widely criticized for the team's clock management in the game

[MikeHamiltonFan]

What is the vision in Miami? Continued mediocrity in a middling conference?

This is not vision time in Miami it should be results time.

If midway through 2011 Kiffin has 8 conference wins and 12 conference losses, no one will be "buying in" and his conference is harder. Shannon sucks as a head coach.

[rjd970]

This is all absurd, all these kids are silents to either Florida or Auburn.

[Jake Tate]

THe title of this thread is just horrible... i almost threw up.

[CalifLadyVolFan]

I saw this on another forum and thought I would share... Go Vols!

Status updates for UF’s top recruiting prospects
Posted by Adam Silverstein | Posted in Football, Recruiting | November 2, 2009

Rather than write you a long, worthless introduction, just go ahead and make the jump for a ton of recruiting news on the following recruits: Matt Elam, Jeff Luc, Chaz Green, Christian Green, Chris Dunkley, Kardon Boone, James Louis, Cody Riggs, Lamarcus Joyner, Sharrif Floyd and Ronald Powell.


- Yes, five-star safety Matt Elam (West Palm Beach, FL) visited the Florida State Seminoles this past weekend. That is not a rumor. Does that have any affect on his future as a member of the Florida Gators? Not in the least. After a heart-to-heart with head coach Urban Meyer, Elam reaffirmed his commitment to the Gators and should be attending the University of Florida this spring to get a head start on next season.

- Four-star linebacker Jeff Luc (Port St. Lucie, FL) looks to be deciding between Florida and the Tennessee Volunteers. For a long time it was believed that Luc was a heavy Gators lean, but apparently Lane Kiffin and the Vols have made in-roads over the last few weeks. I still expect him to end up at Florida but would not be shocked if he jumped for Knoxville, TN.

- Many expected four-star offensive lineman Chaz Green (Tampa, FL) to have committed to the Gators by now as he has been leaning that way for months. Instead, Green took an official visit to Tennessee and came away impressed. Some state he is leaning that way now, but it’s probably a battle between the two. Green’s teammate of the same last name but no relation, four-star athlete Christian Green, has mentioned the Georgia Bulldogs as his leader though the Gators are still considered the heavy favorite to eventually land his services.

- Wide receiver Chris Dunkley (Pahokee, FL) is a four-star recruit who Florida has coveted for a while. While Dunkley is expected to wind up in the Orange & Blue, he has yet to commit and is being pursued heavily by Tennessee, Georgia and the Alabama Crimson Tide. Dunkley visited the Vols this weekend and liked what he saw. When asked who his leader was, he said he didn’t have one (in the past he had said Florida) but admitted he could end up seeing himself playing in Knoxville.

- Should Dunkley not sign with Florida, the coaching staff may turn up the pressure on four-star WRs Kardon Boone (Ocala, FL) and James Louis (Delray Beach, FL). Boone and Louis are committed to the Texas Tech Red Raiders and Ohio State Buckeyes, respectively, but can both be swayed. Louis originally committed to the Gators, but the staff did not accept it as they are holding out hope to land Dunkley.

- Four-star cornerback Cody Riggs (Fort Lauderdale, FL) is still a heavy Gators lean even after taking visits to Tennessee, Georgia and the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. His five-star position-mate Lamarcus Joyner favors the Ohio State over Florida, FSU and Notre Dame.

- Five-star defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd (Philadelphia, PA) is one of the top 10 recruits in the nation and is open to many of the top teams. The Gators are competing with the Buckeyes, Penn State Nittany Lions, South Carolina Gamecocks and North Carolina Tar Heels. Experts believe he will wind up at Florida or Ohio State.

- Last but certainly not least is five-star defensive end Ronald Powell (Moreno Valley, CA). Florida and the USC Trojans are fighting it out for his services. In the end, it may come down to location for Powell (meaning USC would get his commitment), but he has visited Gainesville, FL, on numerous occasions and plans to take another official visit before making a decision. He seems to have a strong relationship with Meyer, too.


Tags: Alabama Crimson Tide, Chaz Green, Chris Dunkley, Christian Green, Cody Riggs, Florida State Seminoles, Georgia Bulldogs, James Louis, Jeff Luc, Kardon Boone, Lamarcus Joyner, Lane Kiffin, Matt Elam, North Carolina Tar Heels, Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Ohio State Buckeyes, Penn State Nittany Lions, Ronald Powell, Sharrif Floyd, South Carolina Gamecocks, Texas Tech Red Raiders, University of Florida, Urban Meyer, USC Trojans

[MikeHamiltonFan]

thank you caladyvolfan

enjoyed the read

[HialeahGator]

Originally Posted by Tennessee Jack

That's what I keep hearing---

parents are UT grads, so obviously like the school. they were unhappy with UT's decline, but Kiffin has shown he can deliver on the field. I've heard the parents don't like how UF's offense doesn't prepare OL for the NFL. I've also heard reports that Green told current players during his official visit that he would be in orange. I've heard nothing recently to suggest Florida will pull this off in the end.

With all that being said I believe UT is the leader at this point but Gators will get the last shot at him and many of the remaining recruits on their board on Nov 28. If he takes his rumored official visit with the rest of the "BIG" names then Fla has a GREAT chance. Its really playing out great for UF because so many targets will be in the stands that haven't made a verbal to anyone so if the game plays out like last year Gators will make a push for the number 1 class right a long with UT...Man I'm glad Kiffin puts some life back into this rivalry. Its going to be GREAT for the next few years.

[VoL BaLL 777]

Originally Posted by MikeHamiltonFan

What is the vision in Miami? Continued mediocrity in a middling conference?

This is not vision time in Miami it should be results time.

If midway through 2011 Kiffin has 8 conference wins and 12 conference losses, no one will be "buying in" and his conference is harder. Shannon sucks as a head coach.

Here Here!

[MikeHamiltonFan]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

Why is that strange? We're coming off a disastrous 5-7 season and now 4-4 overall and under water in conference. People are buying into a vision with programs like ours and Miami's.
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Where did you go? No defense of Shannon and the U?

[air_force_vol]

Originally Posted by Tennessee Jack

That's what I keep hearing---

parents are UT grads, so obviously like the school. they were unhappy with UT's decline, but Kiffin has shown he can deliver on the field. I've heard the parents don't like how UF's offense doesn't prepare OL for the NFL. I've also heard reports that Green told current players during his official visit that he would be in orange. I've heard nothing recently to suggest Florida will pull this off in the end.

Nice, thanks Tenn Jack. That is one that I really thought we had lost out on.

[Back2BackGator]

Originally Posted by MikeHamiltonFan

Where did you go? No defense of Shannon and the U?

I think you are full of it. I see many people saying that 2010 will be a year where Tennessee is "lucky" to go 7-5 or 8-4. Your expectations are just as low as Miami's expectations were when Shannon got in. Heck, look at yourself right now. You are on cloud 9 even though your program is 4-4 with home losses to Auburn and a UCLA team that in the month of November STILL doesn't have a single win in the Pac-10. Your coach has road the back of his 70 year old father's defense and you still view him as one of the elite head coaches in college football.

Face it, UT fans had low expectations for their team the same way Miami fans had.