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Old 07-31-2009, 02:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Football Will Ambles be academically eligible?

I heard he only got an 18 on his ACT and has a 2.9 GPA. Is that good enough to play football? I don't know what the cut-off is.
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While those numbers don't sound great, he's done more than enough to qualify.
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i think a 2.9 is pretty good in the realm of football recruiting

and i have heard that an 18 is what you need to get in, but if he needs more, im sure he could raise it a few points. 20 would probably be more than enough
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He also plans on enrolling in January...
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I'm pretty sure you can get in with a 2.0 if you have an 18. I'm not positive though. He's in easily though
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I'm pretty sure you can get in with a 2.0 if you have an 18. I'm not positive though. He's in easily though
Cool. I thought you had to have at least a 2.5 GPA. So I thought he was okay as far as GPA was concerned, but I wasn't sure about the ACT score. I thought the cutoff might've been 20. Thanks for that.
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Cool. I thought you had to have at least a 2.5 GPA. So I thought he was okay as far as GPA was concerned, but I wasn't sure about the ACT score. I thought the cutoff might've been 20. Thanks for that.
Every team in the country would have talent comparable to Vanderbilt if players had to score a 20 on the ACT to qualify.
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Heck, he would almost qualify for a lottery scholarship if he were from TN
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He also plans on enrolling in January...
Nice! I hope this happens! That would be good to get him and JS both in here early!
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Nice! I hope this happens! That would be good to get him and JS both in here early!
I think Jose Jose is also enrolling early.
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Jose Jose is the president of his school's chess club, right? That's awesome.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled that our admissions standards are so relaxed for athletes. But it's pretty strange when people are positive that an 18 and a 2.9 will send a football recruit straight through admissions, yet he wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell as a regular, in-state student. UT's scores were up to an average of 26.6/3.66 in 2008, and I'm sure that those stats rose again for '09.

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Either way, I'm glad we find a way to let the talented players in...
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Here is a link to the NCAA sliding scale. The core GPA is what they look at from core classes. The test scores are affected based on the GPA. The ACT consists of four tests: English, Mathematics, Reading, and Science. The score range for each of the four tests is 1 – 36. The composite score, as reported by ACT, is the average of the four test scores earned during a single test administration, rounded to the nearest whole number. So a ACT of a 18 is basically a 72 for overall score. So a student only needs a composite score of 10 to qualify for NCAA Div I. The composite score is what is on sites like Rivals. Eddie Lacy had a 13 composite score so he had a 52 total sum score for the ACT. The other thing is unversities can do a combined score. Lets say a student gets a 10 on two parts of the test the first time but maybe only a six on the other two parts. Well the student can now take the test again and only study for the two parts they did bad on. The 2nd time they got a 10 on both the bad parts but only got a 7 on the two they had 10s on before. The NCAA Clearing House will allow the student to combine the four best scores from every test they take so hence now the student has a composite score of 10 and an overall score of 40 and they qualify with that part.

https://web1.ncaa.org/eligibilitycen..._standards.pdf

Now with that said Ambles has a overall ACT score of 72 so according to the sliding scale his GPA in core classes only needs to be a 2.375
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Here is a link to the NCAA sliding scale. The core GPA is what they look at from core classes. The test scores are affected based on the GPA. The ACT consists of four tests: English, Mathematics, Reading, and Science. The score range for each of the four tests is 1 – 36. The composite score, as reported by ACT, is the average of the four test scores earned during a single test administration, rounded to the nearest whole number. So a ACT of a 18 is basically a 72 for overall score. So a student only needs a composite score of 10 to qualify for NCAA Div I. The composite score is what is on sites like Rivals. Eddie Lacy had a 13 composite score so he had a 52 total sum score for the ACT. The other thing is unversities can do a combined score. Lets say a student gets a 10 on two parts of the test the first time but maybe only a six on the other two parts. Well the student can now take the test again and only study for the two parts they did bad on. The 2nd time they got a 10 on both the bad parts but only got a 7 on the two they had 10s on before. The NCAA Clearing House will allow the student to combine the four best scores from every test they take so hence now the student has a composite score of 10 and an overall score of 40 and they qualify with that part.

https://web1.ncaa.org/eligibilitycen..._standards.pdf

Now with that said Ambles has a overall ACT score of 72 so according to the sliding scale his GPA in core classes only needs to be a 2.375
If the best someone can do is a composite score of 10 then they don't even deserve consideration for a scholarship. I know the GPA requirements for that score being 3.55 would keep anyone with a score that low from getting in but still! I would have got a 10 with a blindfold on and my hands tied behind my back so I couldn't fill in the answer bubbles! My brother got a 13 composite when he was 13! Good to hear that Ambles will qualify without a problem though. We'll need him, Milton and Prater!
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