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07-03-2009, 10:46 PM
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#4081 (permalink)
| | Drinkin' the Kool-Aid
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Originally Posted by Sabanocchio  Let's see...watching son ride the bench for 3 years 20 minutes down the road, or watching him tear up SEC defenses as a sophomore on TV... | That's a huge stretch at this point in time. He may have talent, but the kid is yet to prove anything on the next level, and starting for an SEC team is a pretty big accomplishment that he hasn't earned yet.
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07-03-2009, 10:50 PM
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#4082 (permalink)
| | kickball homerun champ...
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Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric That's a huge stretch at this point in time. He may have talent, but the kid is yet to prove anything on the next level, and starting for an SEC team is a pretty big accomplishment that he hasn't earned yet. | Agreed.. I know Jesse's Kiffin guy and all, but the starting job wont just be handed to him. I think Kiffin has allready shown you ahve to work and earn the job regardless of who you are and your seniority.
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07-03-2009, 10:54 PM
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#4083 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by m1al Agreed.. I know Jesse's Kiffin guy and all, but the starting job wont just be handed to him. I think Kiffin has allready shown you ahve to work and earn the job regardless of who you are and your seniority. |
Do you also see this as a possible tug of war match in egos between PC and LK with Jesse being the rope? | |
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07-03-2009, 10:54 PM
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#4084 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric That's a huge stretch at this point in time. He may have talent, but the kid is yet to prove anything on the next level, and starting for an SEC team is a pretty big accomplishment that he hasn't earned yet. | If that's a huge stretch then it's an even bigger stretch to say Scroggins won't ride the bench his whole career at USC with the talent they bring in every year. | |
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07-03-2009, 10:56 PM
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#4085 (permalink)
| | EvanFreakingBerry
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Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric That's a huge stretch at this point in time. He may have talent, but the kid is yet to prove anything on the next level, and starting for an SEC team is a pretty big accomplishment that he hasn't earned yet. | And who, pray tell, do you think will be starting for this team in 2011? Sure he hasn't earned it yet. The kid hasn't even played his senior year of ball yet. But if he does come here and the coaches do their job, he has a realistic chance of being "the guy" here in 2011. It's not much of a stretch. We aren't going to get a guy in next year's class that's better than Scroggins with a year's head start in learning this offense. You are selling him waay short. Quote:
Originally Posted by m1al Agreed.. I know Jesse's Kiffin guy and all, but the starting job wont just be handed to him. I think Kiffin has allready shown you ahve to work and earn the job regardless of who you are and your seniority. | There's absolutely nothing to indicate that that won't be the case.
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07-03-2009, 11:08 PM
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#4086 (permalink)
| | kickball homerun champ...
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Originally Posted by Sabanocchio There's absolutely nothing to indicate that that won't be the case. | Am I reading this right? Are you saying there is nothing to indicate he won't have the job handed to him? If so, I'll use your own words as an argument.. Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabanocchio But if he does come here and the coaches do their job, he has a realistic chance of being "the guy" here in 2011.. | If I misunderstood, never mind. 
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07-03-2009, 11:08 PM
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#4087 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Bassmanbruno If that's a huge stretch then it's an even bigger stretch to say Scroggins won't ride the bench his whole career at USC with the talent they bring in every year. | B,
Why would you not include Jesse in the "talent they bring in every year?" He walks on water for most of the UT fans... | |
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07-03-2009, 11:11 PM
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| | EvanFreakingBerry
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Originally Posted by m1al Am I reading this right? Are you saying there is nothing to indicate he won't have the job handed to him? If so, I'll use your own words as an argument..
If I misunderstood, never mind. | You did. The fact that the job won't be handed to him should be a given. No one on this team will have a job handed to them see Josh McNeil for an example.
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07-03-2009, 11:11 PM
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#4089 (permalink)
| | kickball homerun champ...
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Originally Posted by sctrojanfan Do you also see this as a possible tug of war match in egos between PC and LK with Jesse being the rope? | No, I think Pete and Layne have a fair amount of mutual respect for each other. I see them recruiting hard against each other, but IMO it will be clean. In fact I think they'll help each other out when they can.
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07-03-2009, 11:12 PM
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| | EvanFreakingBerry
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Originally Posted by m1al No, I think Pete and Layne have a fair amount of mutual respect for each other. I see them recruiting hard against each other, but IMO it will be clean. In fact I think they'll help each other out when they can. | Dude. 
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07-03-2009, 11:13 PM
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#4091 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by m1al No, I think Pete and Layne have a fair amount of mutual respect for each other. I see them recruiting hard against each other, but IMO it will be clean. In fact I think they'll help each other out when they can. |
Keep that in mind when Troy Niklas of Servite becomes a Senior  | |
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07-03-2009, 11:15 PM
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#4092 (permalink)
| | kickball homerun champ...
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Originally Posted by Sabanocchio You did. The fact that the job won't be handed to him should be a given. No one on this team will have a job handed to them see Josh McNeil for an example. | Exactly. Thought I might have gotten what you said wrong. But hey, when I get it wrong, I get it totally wrong don't I?
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07-03-2009, 11:21 PM
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#4093 (permalink)
| | kickball homerun champ...
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Originally Posted by Sabanocchio Dude. | All I'm saying is I think things we'll be above board. No bashing each other behind their backs to recruits. Things like, "hey Jesse, if you decide to come to USC make the announcement ASAP, so CLK can get his guy."
Basically the opposite of the relationship (or lack thereof) between CLK and CUM..
I don't know, maybe I give people to much credit...
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07-03-2009, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by m1al All I'm saying is I think things we'll be above board. No bashing each other behind their backs to recruits. Things like, "hey Jesse, if you decide to come to USC make the announcement ASAP, so CLK can get his guy."
Basically the opposite of the relationship (or lack thereof) between CLK and CUM..
I don't know, maybe I give people to much credit... | I think that sounds fine and dandy but Jesse is the first time they have gone head to head... PC is a very competitive guy and does not like to lose in anything. You can bet that if he loses his #1 QB prospect and only QB offer to LK, it will be on like donkey kong!
On second thought, how about we give you Jesse and a player to be named in exchange for Coach O and Mrs Kiffin  | |
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07-03-2009, 11:36 PM
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| | Pump That Gas
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Originally Posted by sctrojanfan I think that sounds fine and dandy but Jesse is the first time they have gone head to head... PC is a very competitive guy and does not like to lose in anything. You can bet that if he loses his #1 QB prospect and only QB offer to LK, it will be on like donkey kong! On second thought, how about we give you Jesse and a player to be named in exchange for Coach O and Mrs Kiffin | You can't put a price tag on Layla! (or Coach O)  | |
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