The World of Recruiting - Page 2

Smokey1 · 07-22-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sjt18

You said this. My point is that very few people actually think about these things moment by moment and achieve any great level of success. It is the ones who just strive for excellence for the joy of it that often make more money and move up.

Not everyone is motivated simply by money and promotion. Some do it because they love it.

Clawson for instance is a very intelligent man. He could have been as successful, faster in some other line of work. He loves football.

very well said.

allvol123 · 07-22-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sjt18

If you think it always relates back to selfish greed and self promotion... that says alot more about you than them.

Ah yes, you have no point so try and take some little shot at me. Sorry you take it so personal that Clawson and Co. are not going home at night and thinking to themselves..."man I gotta get these recruits so I can make sjt18 & Smoeky1 happy!".

sjt18 · 07-22-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by allvol123

Where did I say they think about it moment by moment?

As I said, if he did it purely out of love, he could coach a HS team.

He could want success at higher levels without alot of regard for the money. Some people want to be challenged... again, in it for the joy and fulfillment of it rather than the very base motives you suggest.

allvol123 · 07-22-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sjt18

He could want success at higher levels without alot of regard for the money. Some people want to be challenged... again, in it for the joy and fulfillment of it rather than the very base motives you suggest.

Of course he enjoys it and has passion for it. What do those things have to do with making you and the university happy? Nothing, that is what. HE finds it fulfilling and seeks more fulfillment from promotions and raises.

sjt18 · 07-22-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by allvol123

Ah yes, you have no point so try and take some little shot at me. Sorry you take it so personal that Clawson and Co. are not going home at night and thinking to themselves..."man I gotta get these recruits so I can make sjt18 & Smoeky1 happy!".

I have a point. You are wrong and your blindness to how wrong you are potentially says a great deal about you. If the only (or even primary) things you are motivated by are money and promotion then you are a sad, selfish individual.

allvol123 · 07-22-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sjt18

I have a point. You are wrong and your blindness to how wrong you are potentially says a great deal about you. If the only (or even primary) things you are motivated by are money and promotion then you are a sad, selfish individual.

Good job at pointing out you have no point. Isn't it about time for you to feed your unicorns today.

sjt18 · 07-22-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by allvol123

Of course he enjoys it and has passion for it. What do those things have to do with making you and the university happy? Nothing, that is what.

How do YOU know that? Entertainment performers talk all the time about how the only time they are happy is on stage pleasing their fans. I am quite sure that these coaches get pleasure out of putting a team on the field that excites and pleases the fans.

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HE finds it fulfilling and seeks more fulfillment from promotions and raises.

I hope you are young... the type of narrow-minded, base ideal you are spewing is pathetic in anyone with experience in the world.

If you are in a career and have not reached a point where being excellent is the main motive then you have a lot of growing up to do no matter how old you are.

rexvol · 07-22-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sjt18

if you think it always relates back to selfish greed and self promotion... That says alot more about you than them.

qft

sjt18 · 07-22-2008, 05:05 PM

Holy cow!!! I just looked and you are 35! Are you kidding me? You are 35 and believe that people are only motivated by money and promotion?

Wow.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised in a society plagued by the consequences of self-centeredness and greed... but still.... Wow.

rexvol · 07-22-2008, 05:05 PM

Allvol, you realize that this thread was started as a way to acknowledge the scarifices coaches make everyday. You may want to argue what motivates them, but I just want to let people know what they go through day to day to help keep our program successful. If the university wins, then we all win.

allvol123 · 07-22-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sjt18

How do YOU know that? Entertainment performers talk all the time about how the only time they are happy is on stage pleasing their fans. I am quite sure that these coaches get pleasure out of putting a team on the field that excites and pleases the fans.I hope you are young... the type of narrow-minded, base ideal you are spewing is pathetic in anyone with experience in the world.

If you are in a career and have not reached a point where being excellent is the main motive then you have a lot of growing up to do no matter how old you are.

Oh please teach me more sjt18, oh experienced one. Once AGAIN, Clawson left podunk university to come to UT. Why because it is a prestigious job and pays good money. Also, it has the potential to get him even further up the chain. I am sorry to disappoint you, his primary objective was not to make you happy. He needs wins to keep moving up, and that will make you happy. But making you happy is not his primary goal.

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allvol123 · 07-22-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sjt18

Holy cow!!! I just looked and you are 35! Are you kidding me? You are 35 and believe that people are only motivated by money and promotion?

Wow.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised in a society plagued by the consequences of self-centeredness and greed... but still.... Wow.

You believe people are professionally motivated by smiles and giggles? Are you 12?

allvol123 · 07-22-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rexvol

Allvol, you realize that this thread was started as a way to acknowledge the scarifices coaches make everyday. You may want to argue what motivates them, but I just want to let people know what they go through day to day to help keep our program successful. If the university wins, then we all win.

They do make sacrifices and I was nitpicking your commentary a little. Did not agree with the last point.

rexvol · 07-22-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by allvol123

You believe people are professionally motivated by smiles and giggles? Are you 12?

when my 4 month old smiles and giggles, well, that's all the motivation I need

sjt18 · 07-22-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by allvol123

Oh please teach me more sjt18, oh experienced one. Once AGAIN, Clawson left podunk university to come to UT. Why because it is a prestigious job and pays good money. Also, it has the potential to get him even further up the chain. I am sorry to disappoint you, his primary objective was not to make you happy. He needs wins to keep moving up, and that will make you happy. But making you happy is not his primary goal.

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I didn't say it was his primary objective though did I? I said that he doesn't seem to be motivated by money and promotion alone. In other words, he doesn't seem to be an egocentric narcissist like Saban or Miles.

There is good evidence that he's the type who really does it for the love of the game... and all that goes with it including the joy of the fans... rather than just to line his pockets and become famous.