D.J. Swearinger

[govols182]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

182 you know some of our players could jump from 3* to 4* and 4* to 5*.

I know there's been talk of Stokes jumping to 5*, Oliver jumping to 4* possibly, but other than that no. FB's usually don't get 4* rankings, RB's don't jump from 61 to top 15 usually, and I think Giles stays right about where he is, he might jump back into the 100 though.

[VOLNBAMA]

Originally Posted by govols182

I know there's been talk of Stokes jumping to 5*, Oliver jumping to 4* possibly, but other than that no. FB's usually don't get 4* rankings, RB's don't jump from 61 to top 15 usually, and I think Giles stays right about where he is, he might jump back into the 100 though.

Just remember this guy. Al Wilson 3* FB.

[volsack7]

Stokes was a 5* on scout until just recently. Anyone know why he got bumped down to a 4*?

[govols182]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

Just remember this guy. Al Wilson 3* FB.

I'm not saying that all 3 stars suck and we shouldn't offer. I said it's not likely that every 3 star in our class turns into solid contributors.

[head1]

Still way to early to say anything about any of these guys period.

What are you gonna say if they have huge Senior years and have film come out that is just unreal?

Star talk is crap but to do it 8 months before signing day is just pointless.

[govols182]

Originally Posted by head1

Still way to early to say anything about any of these guys period.

What are you gonna say if they have huge Senior years and have film come out that is just unreal?

Star talk is crap but to do it 8 months before signing day is just pointless.

Dear lord people. Are you blind? I said it's okay to have a couple 3*'s and I know it's early and rankings can change. I will gladly take the guys now or after(if they do)they rank up. I just don't want to end this class with 3 4*'s and 17 2 and 3 *'s.

[gainesvol82]

Originally Posted by volball625

Can we all agree that the higher they are rated, then the more likely they are to be a successful football player?

I'd say that the percentages are in your favor but only slightly. Too many kids get looked over in their junior seasons and a lot of kids have growth spurts or get hurt which makes it very difficult to project players. I will agree that you have a somewhat better chance of winning if your team's average star ranking is high. I think it is very similar to the ratios in the pros. 5 star recruits are like 1st round draft picks. They usually have the biggest upside and potential but a good percentage of them bust.

[VOLNBAMA]

Originally Posted by govols182

Dear lord people. Are you blind? I said it's okay to have a couple 3*'s and I know it's early and rankings can change. I will gladly take the guys now or after(if they do)they rank up. I just don't want to end this class with 3 4*'s and 17 2 and 3 *'s.

So why even bring it up?

[govols182]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

So why even bring it up?

Like I said, I don't want to end up have 3 4*'s and 17 2 and 3*'s.

[VOLNBAMA]

You said it's early and that the rankings can change. So to me it doesn't make sense as to why you bring it up.

[gainesvol82]

Originally Posted by govols182

2002
Jason Hall 2*-Started SR year, pretty good player
Marvin Mitchell 3*-Good LB for us
Leon Pinky 2*-Don't remember his name
Antwan Stewart 3*-injuries slowed him, good player

2003
Corey Campbell 3*-had a few INT late in some games
Britton Colquitt 3*-K/P's aren't usually rated highly
Brad Cottam 3*-came on strong late JR year
Roshaun Fellows 3*-promising early, disappointment later
Zarnell Fitch 3*-never hear his name
Antonio Gaines 2*-reserve player
Bill Grimes 2*-who?
Bo Hardegree 2*-clipboard holder
Jon Hefney 3*-disappointing SR season
Jared Hostetter 3*-never finished here I don't believe
Brandon Johnson 3*-dismissed from team
Anthony McDaniel 3*-dismissed from team, NFL now
John Poe 3*-reserve LB

2004
Ell Ash 3*-didn't play much
Chris Brown 2*-very dependable VOL
Sinclair Cannon 3*-has he even lettered?
Arian Foster 3*-soon to be Vol leading rusher
Ramon Foster 3*-big, strong OL. starter JR and SR
Inky Johnson 2*-big heart, Would have been a great one
Ryan Karl 2*-slow for UT LB but started JR and SR
Cameron Mayo 3*-injury prone, never finished
Anthony Parker 3*-best OL we have right now
Antonio Reynolds 3*-decent career
James Turner 2*-did he letter?
Ja'kouri Williams 3*-switched positions too many times
Ellix Wilson 2*-Starter this year, key reserve so far

2005
Josh Briscoe 3*-very good JR, has improved all 3 yrs
Jeff Cottam 3*-high expectations for him this year
Marsalous Johnson 3*-starter last year, was sophomore
Ricardo Kemp 3*-good, but transfered
Darius Myers 3*-yet to letter, will be sophomore
Vlad Richards 3*-key reserve, should start next year
Austin Rogers 3*-had some drops,still good career so far
Antonio Wardlow 3*-good ST guy, dismissed from team
Dan Williams 3*-started soph. year, best DT we have
2006-these guys still have time to do something
Chad Cunningham 2*-key reserve when Britton injured
Dorian Davis 2*-dismissed from team
Blake Garretson 3*-dismissed before arriving
Justin Garrett 3*-grade issues
Quentin Hancock 3*-spring standout so far
Daniel Lincoln 2*-big kicker, good so far
Dustin Lindsey 3*-grade issues
Chase Nelson 3*-weight problems, we will see this year
Cody Pope 3*-weight issues, position switches
Stephaun Raines 2*-will be his first year this year
Jarrod Shaw 3*-switched from DT, yet to letter
Lee Smith 3*-dismissed from team
Nick Stephens 3*-strongest arm of QB's,2nd string so far
Luke Stocker 3*-good spring, key reserve last year
Victor Thomas 3*-weight issues, position switch
Lamarcus Thompson 3*-ST so far, key reserve this year


Out of 55 from these classes, only 25 have made some type of significant contribution to the team. Hopefully the trend changes with 07 and 08 classes.

The 2004 and 2005 classes contradict your point. Lots of good contributors from those classes and lots of unprovens who should contribute this year and next year. I'm just failing to see your point about our lower star players being disappointing. It seems to me that we get as many key contributors who are 3 stars and under as we do 4 and 5 star players.

[govols182]

Like I said there are exceptions, but not every 2 and 3 star prospect is going to be a major contributor. If you guys want a class full of 2 and 3 star prospects well then . It's mostly hit and miss with the 2 and 3 star prospects. Some will be good and some won't do anything. I'd rather not take that chance.

[chavisut]

I'd like to get this guys commitment regardless. We will land more than 3 4*s anyways, we already have 5 if you consider Hall and Sykes who should be 4* at the least.

[VolsByNature]

182, I really do understand what you are trying to say. The more stars the better I feel. But, if a man has his heart set on being a Vol, you can't for much more than that. This is going to shape up to be a great class

[chieflawdog]

Give me a 3 star that bleeds orange any day over a 5 star that states came to ut for early playing time