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06-25-2008, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by govols182 3/10 isn't very good. |
Have you never looked at the final ranking stats for the top classes? Nobody averages 4 stars. 3/10 four star recruits is expected. That would be 12 four star recruits in a class of 30. Mix in a few 5 star players and a bunch of 3 stars and you have yourself a top recruiting class. See 2007 as a model if needed. |
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06-25-2008, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NEW COACH And if he wants to play for a BIG football school I'm not sure he'd want to come here.  j/m | Quote:
Originally Posted by gainesvol82
Alright, that's the last straw. You don't usually bother me but that is the most worthless comment I've ever seen posted here. | geez, read the whole post.
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06-25-2008, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gainesvol82 Have you never looked at the final ranking stats for the top classes? Nobody averages 4 stars. 3/10 four star recruits is expected. That would be 12 four star recruits in a class of 30. Mix in a few 5 star players and a bunch of 3 stars and you have yourself a top recruiting class. See 2007 as a model if needed. | Well, now it's 4/11. You really like to argue don't you? I wold rather have had 4-5/10, but you take what you can get. |
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06-25-2008, 02:54 PM
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| It's 4 of 11 but alot of these guys are fast risers and I wouldn't be surprised if at least 6 of those 11 end up as 4*s. This isn't counting Rufus Williams, Rae Sykes, or Cory Hall who could all be 4* or 5* when the JUCO rankings are released. |
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06-25-2008, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hvwarrior58 It's 4 of 11 but alot of these guys are fast risers and I wouldn't be surprised if at least 6 of those 11 end up as 4*s. This isn't counting Rufus Williams, Rae Sykes, or Cory Hall who could all be 4* or 5* when the JUCO rankings are released. | Yeah, I know. I'm glad the coaches found some risers. I think this class will be really good, it's just scary to see us getting commits from unranked players. I'm glad they are rising though, makes me feel better. |
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06-25-2008, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by govols182 Well, now it's 4/11. You really like to argue don't you? I wold rather have had 4-5/10, but you take what you can get. |
Isn't that one of the functions of a sports board? State your opinion and defend it. I'm pointing out that your expectations aren't in line with the reality of recruiting. 1/3 of recruits being 4 stars is not a bad number. I get your point of wanting to get 4 or 5 out of 10 being 4 stars or higher but when has UT ever done that? Besides, quite a few of our 3 star players are agreed to be sleepers or kids who have been looked over and whose stock is rising. I'll take a hard-working, underrated 3 star with a chip on his shoulder over a 5 star primadonna any day. |
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06-25-2008, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by govols182 Yeah, I know. I'm glad the coaches found some risers. I think this class will be really good, it's just scary to see us getting commits from unranked players. I'm glad they are rising though, makes me feel better. |
I'll take the coaching staff's evaluation of talent over a recruiting service any day. We are recruiting solid, smart kids who have no background issues and probably didn't deserve to be unrated in the first place. Seriously, how does a 6'6 320 lb lineman get no rating? I seriously doubt that Fulmer and company would recruit non-rated hacks with no talent. |
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06-25-2008, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gainesvol82 Isn't that one of the functions of a sports board? State your opinion and defend it. I'm pointing out that your expectations aren't in line with the reality of recruiting. 1/3 of recruits being 4 stars is not a bad number. I get your point of wanting to get 4 or 5 out of 10 being 4 stars or higher but when has UT ever done that? Besides, quite a few of our 3 star players are agreed to be sleepers or kids who have been looked over and whose stock is rising. I'll take a hard-working, underrated 3 star with a chip on his shoulder over a 5 star primadonna any day. | 2002: 21/25 were rated 4* or better
2004: 10/24 were rated 4* or better
2005: 17/26 were rated 4* or better
2007: 16/32 were rated 4* or better
It's not uncommon for us to have classes like that. 4 our of the last 7 have been like that. Maybe I'm just spoiled.
If you don't believe me look it up for yourself: http://tennessee.rivals.com/commitlist.asp |
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06-25-2008, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by peaygolf89 Suggs is from GA, not sure where Joey was from. Went to Memphis. | I think Joey was from Sevier County. Anyway, Suggs was semi-local. Local in comparison to Nunes. Just pointing out that Southern QBs can fail just as easily as guys from the West Coast. |
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06-25-2008, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by govols182 2002: 21/25 were rated 4* or better
2004: 10/24 were rated 4* or better
2005: 17/26 were rated 4* or better
2007: 16/32 were rated 4* or better
It's not uncommon for us to have classes like that. 4 our of the last 7 have been like that. Maybe I'm just spoiled.
If you don't believe me look it up for yourself: http://tennessee.rivals.com/commitlist.asp |
A good number of those rankings were lower at the time of the player's recruitment. I get your point and you aren't spoiled but not everybody on the team needs to be 4 stars or above. It would be nice, but you would have a lot of pissed off talent that never gets to see the field. |
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06-25-2008, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gainesvol82 A good number of those rankings were lower at the time of the player's recruitment. I get your point and you aren't spoiled but not everybody on the team needs to be 4 stars or above. It would be nice, but you would have a lot of pissed off talent that never gets to see the field. | I don't expect to get only 4 star players. I just don't want only 3 stars. No big deal, it's over and these guys are on the rise. |
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06-26-2008, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kptvol I think Joey was from Sevier County. Anyway, Suggs was semi-local. Local in comparison to Nunes. Just pointing out that Southern QBs can fail just as easily as guys from the West Coast. | I agree 100%! But, this guy "seems" to be really good. Never know! Besides Chad Pennington (1 D1 scholarship offer) name me a "local" qb who has done anything in college. Heath S and Andy K. I can't think of anyone else. |
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06-26-2008, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by peaygolf89 I agree 100%! But, this guy "seems" to be really good. Never know! Besides Chad Pennington (1 D1 scholarship offer) name me a "local" qb who has done anything in college. Heath S and Andy K. I can't think of anyone else. | Bobby Dodd. |
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06-26-2008, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kptvol Bobby Dodd. | if you're going that far back might as well throw in the ol ball coach
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06-26-2008, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by utvolpj if you're going that far back might as well throw in the ol ball coach |  |
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