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04-17-2008, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by armchairvol The Vols haven't had much good buzz in recent years, with their mediocre play, and that may be one reason. Also, the southeast/south is loaded with appealing programs, whereas there isn't much going on out nebraska way AT ALL. | Captain Obvious  |
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04-17-2008, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rexvol If we cant get this kid, then we're in rough shape. In Texas kids are beating down the door to commit to Mack Brown and we cant even get a lifelong Vol to go ahead and pull the trigger. | I just think that it has become a habit at Knoxville Catholic....
...it's like.."do you want to go over to the Hill (like a bunch of others from your class)..that's cool...but [Fill in Name Here] went to ND last year for football..that's pretty sweet...I'd love to get out of this town..but I guess I'll go to UT." It's hometown syndrome or something. I don't know what's in the water over there...
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04-18-2008, 07:10 AM
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| what does Texas, Florida, FSU, UM, and the rest do that allows them to lock down their hometown guys? find out and duplicate it. the article on govols about former players coming back really saddened me. why dont we have some kind of formal effort to get these guys back on campus once or twice a year? Shouldnt that be just SOP?
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04-18-2008, 07:53 AM
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| How aggressively to we recruit these kids out of Knox Catholic? Does anyone think we recruit so hard out of state that we leave our in state guys wondering? |
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04-18-2008, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by armchairvol The Vols haven't had much good buzz in recent years, with their mediocre play, and that may be one reason. Also, the southeast/south is loaded with appealing programs, whereas there isn't much going on out nebraska way AT ALL. | Because Nebraska has been world beaters the last few years... |
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04-18-2008, 09:21 AM
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| I think any Catholic kid has Notre Dame at the top of their list regardless of what state they're from |
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04-18-2008, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by KCVolLaw True. Have you lived in Texas before? I loved it. | I would rather be in Knoxville.
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04-18-2008, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by vader I would rather be in Knoxville. | amen to that
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04-18-2008, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by justingroves I think any Catholic kid has Notre Dame at the top of their list regardless of what state they're from | not really, I grew up going to St Joe's and then Father Ryan. Most of the guys at my schools couldnt care less about ND.
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04-18-2008, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rexvol not really, I grew up going to St Joe's and then Father Ryan. Most of the guys at my schools couldnt care less about ND. | Okay, then I don't know why those kids don't come to Tennessee. |
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04-18-2008, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by justingroves Okay, then I don't know why those kids don't come to Tennessee. | obviously  .
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04-18-2008, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by justingroves Okay, then I don't know why those kids don't come to Tennessee. | maybe you call some of the local talent (like Hood) and write about it. sound like a great article. start with Leroy Thompson, ask Warren or Redd why they left, etc.
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04-18-2008, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rexvol what does Texas, Florida, FSU, UM, and the rest do that allows them to lock down their hometown guys? find out and duplicate it. the article on govols about former players coming back really saddened me. why dont we have some kind of formal effort to get these guys back on campus once or twice a year? Shouldnt that be just SOP? | Part of what's happening right now is Texas and Florida are riding the momentum of their more recent success. Texas a mere 8-10 years ago didn't have the state locked down... A&M and OU, and many other schools were taking a bunch of kids that the longhorns wanted. But with Mack Brown (who is a great recruiter) and more recently the success that Vince Young delivered, suddenly Texas was the trendy place to be. Same thing with the gators. It wasn't so long ago that FSU and Miami took the top talent in the state of Florida... but then came Spurrier and the championships, and the gators were suddenly on the map. Meyer has sustained that success, and even Zook, being the great recruiter that he was, kept the talent pipeline flowing.
What Texas and Florida both have, in addition to their fertile recruiting grounds... is charismatic and elite recruiters as head coaches - and a more tangible promise that they will win championships (as supported by recent history).
Texas also benefits from Austin being an exceptional place to live. Not hard to convince kids to come to
Austin.
The state of our program just doesn't lend itself to being the "coolest" place to go at this point. We are a "non-factor" in the words of Herbstreit. That just doesn't lend itself to putting yourself on the top of many kid's lists. Win a championship and that will start to change. A more charismatic figurehead would help too. Fortunately for us... we have elite traditioin and facilities, and a great history of putting kids in the NFL. Those things help keep us on the radar. |
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04-19-2008, 07:24 AM
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All are selling points for potential offensive recruits. Problem is, they’ll want to see all the above in action before they pledge their services.
Fair enough. Just don’t wait too long. Fulmer laments the fact that recruiting seems to accelerate with each and every turn of the calendar. Decisions must be made quicker.
That doesn’t play to UT’s strengths as a program with limited in-state talent, which leads us to the one knock on UT’s recruiting efforts to this point. Even with a new offense, it’s hard to figure out why the Vols don’t have one in-state commitment.
| read the last sentence. from govols.com
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04-19-2008, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rexvol maybe you call some of the local talent (like Hood) and write about it. sound like a great article. start with Leroy Thompson, ask Warren or Redd why they left, etc. | When I get through with exams I might do that. |
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