2 Years before NBA

[RockyTop572]

Originally Posted by jwells

Harm them in what way? maybe convince them to get an education? Maybe create a little more parity in the college game?

I was referring to the rare but classic case of someone getting permanently hurt.

Or even if they have an amazing first year and then drop off some the next. An example would be if Chris Lofton had been projected to go high in the first round...and then had a season like this one that hurt his stock.

I'm all about them getting an education, but the guys that are guaranteed to go to the NBA don't do much school work anyway...

[tvolsfan]

I don't like this rule.

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by jwells

Harm them in what way? maybe convince them to get an education?

Yeah, because going to college makes the players better people. Heaven forbid they wind up like Kevin Garnett, Lebron James, or Amare.

Originally Posted by jwells

Maybe create a little more parity in the college game?

Who gives a d**n whether the college game has more parity? It's better to keep a guy from earning income for two years and feeding his family just so a few colleges can suck him dry for two years and make millions?

[The Dude]

Any company has the right to set their standards, get over it.

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by RockyTop572

I mean that's fine. But I would think there would be a better way that doesn't potentially harm the FUTURE of the league.

How would this hurt the leagues future? Seem's to me the nba isn't doing that well right now anyway. I just don't see how making players wait two years will have that much more impact than one year.

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

Yeah, because going to college makes the players better people. Heaven forbid they wind up like Kevin Garnett, Lebron James, or Amare.

Who gives a d**n whether the college game has more parity? It's better to keep a guy from earning income for two years and feeding his family just so a few colleges can suck him dry for two years and make millions?

I don't know many 19 or 20 year olds that have FAMILIES. And the colleges suck them dry while offering them a college education for free in exchange for their play.

[pricevol5]

Originally Posted by RockyTop572

I was referring to the rare but classic case of someone getting permanently hurt.

Or even if they have an amazing first year and then drop off some the next. An example would be if Chris Lofton had been projected to go high in the first round...and then had a season like this one that hurt his stock.

I'm all about them getting an education, but the guys that are guaranteed to go to the NBA don't do much school work anyway...

He was never more than a second rounder, bad example.

[crazyguy]

I think it's a retarded rule. If you were in engineering school and invented something that paid you 5 million dollars a year...would you stay in college?

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by crazyguy

I think it's a retarded rule. If you were in engineering school and invented something that paid you 5 million dollars a year...would you stay in college?

NBA players don't invent anything. They play a game and get paid very well for doing it. Now if a NBA prospect actually invented something they would have every right to test the free market.

[crazyguy]

Originally Posted by KB5252

NBA players don't invent anything. They play a game and get paid very well for doing it. Now if a NBA prospect actually invented something they would have every right to test the free market.

right, they have even more of a guaranteed income. I just don't get why people think that they should stay in college. how is college going to help them in the nba? They are wasting money making years while in college. Just go back to college when you retire or wash out.

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by crazyguy

right, they have even more of a guaranteed income. I just don't get why people think that they should stay in college. how is college going to help them in the nba? They are wasting money making years while in college. Just go back to college when you retire or wash out.

It is not a god given right to play in the NBA. They have every right to do what they think is best for their brand. If they believe it hurts their image to have a bunch of uneducated individuals playing for them then they have the right to address that. The NBA's image has suffered over the last 5 to 10 years because of the "hip hop culture" image it has come to be associated with. That is a big part of why viewers ratings are down.

[AmoebaVol]

All I know is, if I were an NBA prospect I would gather together as many other NBA prospects as possible and challenge this in court. I'm all about kids getting their degrees, but you should not be able to limit someone's access to a career based on age.

I understand that playing in the NBA is a privilege (not a right), and that kids could go overseas or something and play professionally if they didn't want to go to college. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see that start happening. If I were a foreign team, I'd actively recruit the cream of the high school crop and offer them millions to come play in my country.

[crazyguy]

Originally Posted by KB5252

It is not a god given right to play in the NBA. They have every right to do what they think is best for their brand. If they believe it hurts their image to have a bunch of uneducated individuals playing for them then they have the right to address that. The NBA's image has suffered over the last 5 to 10 years because of the "hip hop culture" image it has come to be associated with. That is a big part of why viewers ratings are down.

It's mainly political in my opinion. The NCAA wants to wring every cent that they can out of these guys. Having players stay in college an extra year is going to do zero to change the culture of the nba. The nba pushed the street nature of basketball in the 90's and now it's coming back and burning them....oops.

Originally Posted by AmoebaVol

All I know is, if I were an NBA prospect I would gather together as many other NBA prospects as possible and challenge this in court. I'm all about kids getting their degrees, but you should not be able to limit someone's access to a career based on age.

I understand that playing in the NBA is a privilege (not a right), and that kids could go overseas or something and play professionally if they didn't want to go to college. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see that start happening. If I were a foreign team, I'd actively recruit the cream of the high school crop and offer them millions to come play in my country.

While I understand where your coming from, i'm not sure that overseas basketball has a shot at rivaling the nba. There just isn't enough popularity overseas and the dollars that follow that popularity to compete.

[pricevol5]

My plan.

Eliminate the D-League.

Allow High Schoolers to Enter the NBA Draft.

Minimum 3 years in college if Player decides to attend school.

All High Schoolers drafted, 1st or 2nd round, will receive a guaranteed contract. This will eliminate NBA teams from taking an unready player based on "potential"

Those High Schoolers who enter and undrafted may attend and play the minimum 3 years in college.

I think this way the guys who are really ready to play out of high school, like Lebron, Amare, KG, will not be affected by the rule.

And those who entered and aren't ready still have the chance to go to college and better their game instead of bouncing around Europe and the minor leagues.

[AmoebaVol]

Originally Posted by crazyguy

While I understand where your coming from, i'm not sure that overseas basketball has a shot at rivaling the nba. There just isn't enough popularity overseas and the dollars that follow that popularity to compete.

I agree that it's not as popular, but I'm not really talking of overseas basketball as a replacement for the NBA -- rather, it could be a replacement for college. If I'm good enough to play professionally (a la Kobe Bryant or Kevin Garnett), why not go to Italy and make a stack of money for two years while you wait on your NBA eligibility?

Talk about unintended consequences if that happened.