I hate to say the sky is falling but...

[Smokeys Pal]

We have too much tradition and fan base to keep making excuses for Phil. Teams in the SEC are in the top 5 National rankings every year and they keep getting better and better talent. We make excuses like "We dont need the top QB in the nation or we already have great WR's." Im getting pissed as hell with Phil. The only reason he is still there "IMO" is to recruit. He cant coach worth a damn if you ask me and he isnt doing his job.

[coondog]

I hope they can develope talent, because they didnt do to much in their short time with the recruiting. I know they didnt have long but h3ll alot of teams had staff rollovers and it didnt seem to hurt them to much. These low ranked classes want begin to show-up until 3 or4 years down the road, thats when they hurt you. When depth becomes a problem then you have big problems. The real problem is even in the top 5 classes alot of these guys will not pan out, but it gives you some leeway to fall back on some lower ranked players. But when you sign a class thats already ranked low and alot of those guys dont pan out then you really dont have much to fall back on. Everybody seems to think that 1 big class we had last year will carry us for years-WRONG- you are only as good as your 2nd and 3rd strings- DEPTH- is where these classes will hurt us in the future.

[nashvillevolunteer]

We lost too many good players from our own state to consider this class good. When more of our top players sign with Alabama than us and we do not pull any of their top state players, it is pretty bad.

[utvolpj]

Who cares where they're from if they can play. And I would hardly count a player from Memphis as an easier get.

[justingroves]

Everybody keeps *****ing about depth, yet 3 JUCO recruits are coming in next year on the DL.

[Smokeys Pal]

Im not *****ing about depth or number pf players. Im *****ing about the level of talent. If Alabama can get these guys we should be able to also.

[VolsFanRJ]

Originally Posted by justingroves

Everybody keeps *****ing about depth, yet 3 JUCO recruits are coming in next year on the DL.

Who are you refering to as 3 DL?
Sykes, Corey Hall, Rufus Williams....

If so, I didn't think it is a given these guys will make it. I heard they have one more year in order to get their academics in order. If you have more info, please share. This would be refreshing news and I would agree, that would solve our problem, or at least help in a major way.

[justingroves]

Originally Posted by Smokeys Pal

Im not *****ing about depth or number pf players. Im *****ing about the level of talent. If Alabama can get these guys we should be able to also.

I've yet to see a football game won solely on where Rivals and Scout ranked their recruiting classes.

[justingroves]

Originally Posted by tennisguy

Who are you refering to as 3 DL?
Sykes, Corey Hall, Rufus Williams....

If so, I didn't think it is a given these guys will make it. I heard they have one more year in order to get their academics in order. If you have more info, please share. This would be refreshing news and I would agree, that would solve our problem, or at least help in a major way.

The class of 2009 will have Williams, Hall and Sykes in it. If they don't get their grades up, they will not play anywere.

[TennTradition]

Originally Posted by justingroves

I've yet to see a football game won solely on where Rivals and Scout ranked their recruiting classes.

Yeah...but we lost out on a lot of guys we were pushing to get this year - that is the sign of a losing recruiting class. It isn't only the fact that the avg. stars are down ...

[thunder5]

Originally Posted by UTLCA

But that would hinder his argument, so of course he wouldn't want to give Fulmer credit where it's due.

Okay...I agree nice was an understatement...an unintentional understatement...

But what credit is Fulmer due that I'm not giving him?

Yeah...he had a great class last year...but following that up with this years class hardly deserves any credit...

Another thing that bugs me about this class....well...the main thing I should say...isn't it's rating but the way we were targeting lineman and couldn't get any worth talking about...

One thing I've always liked about Fulmer is that even when he didn't have a highly rated class you could still say 'Well...we got what we needed"...

Well...we needed lineman...we made it clear that we needed lineman...and yet our O-line/D-line haul is lacking to say the least...

And all of this is happening while every good team in the SEC that we're trying to keep up with is stocking up year-in and year-out...

Even Bama wracked up this year...

It's a very disturbing outcome IMO

[KnoxNash]

Phil won't last much longer. We'll have to step up and go for a coach that will bring us back to where we were a decade ago.