The Recruitment of Jalen Ramsey

[champyvol]

Originally Posted by FredWhite2

I apologize as I'm well aware he has a thread in the recruiting thread, but I felt this needed its own...

First, let me start by congratulating a kid on earning a scholarship to one of the top programs in the country and making his initial decision. As much as my personal feelings and knowledge about some of their coaches want to get in the way, there's no use and/or class in bashing an 18 year old kid for choosing another school to play football. I hope our fanbase will show class and not bash this kid via social media sites as has been the case with players in the past...


USC:

Jalen has been told (whether it's true or not) that he is the number one DB on USC board. Obviously the atmosphere in southern California is a big draw as is playing for a national championship contender... Lane and Co. have also told their story of their experience at Tennessee which has not been a great one... They have beaten into his head that not only are Dooley and Co on the way out, but also that Tennessee is in the lower tier of the most competitive conference in the country. Also, they have explained the connections Ramsey would have at USC post graduation if football were not to workout. Kiffin sought to cleanse his image with Ramsey right off the bat explaining how the "bad guy" act at Tennessee was to simply gain national recognition in hopes of turning the program around as quickly as possible, which Ramsey bought right away. I know stories about Lane Kiffin from people close to him, and I can tell you without a doubt that he is not someone I would want my kid to go play for... Im not going to get into the reports of money under the table, bc that happens everywhere as can be seen in the recruitment of stud LB Rueben Foster.


Vanderbilt:

Ramsey has been the number one target on Vandy's board in this class since their coaches created a board for 2013. Vanderbilt is selling immediate playing time in the SEC (top conference in the nation) and one of the best educations a kid can receive in the country. At Vandy he would also stay close to home, which did matter somewhat to Ramsey (choosing USC only bc he felt comfortable with his future teammates). Vanderbilt has been in constant contact and visited Ramsey more than any other school hoping to form a close relationship, which they did eventually. Vanderbilt has also been pitching that they are a "program on the rise" to recruits including Ramsey using last year's record and bowl appearance as well as close games with: Arkansas and UT, games they are telling recruits they should have won. Also, with the construction of the new football complex at Vandy they have that to pitch as well.


Overall Jalen never had any special connection to Tennessee. Obviously they are an instate school and have recruited him hard for the past two years, so he listened to what we had to say... Don't hold your breath on getting him to change his mind to come here even though there is still a lot of time between now and national signing day. Obviously getting him on campus for an official visit will be our only prayer (aside from a big orange briefcase showing up at his house...) But I just felt the need to share some of what I know and hope our fanbase can wish this kid well and show some class even though he did not choose us today.

I'm very optimistic and excited about this year and the future of Tennessee football under this regime. They have done a good job considering all of the adversity and the state of the program when Dooley arrived. Donte Phillips would be a HUGE addition to the program, so Im interested to see how that plays out. Counting down the days til Aug. 31 when we can all see for sure how we are going to be this year.


GBO

difference being kiffin gets great athletes and wins games. dooley gets ok talent and loses. pretty simple to most of the football world that are not blinded by orange colored glasses.

[volroadwarrior]

Let me be clear. I do not wish ill will for Jalen or anyone else. I will not cheer for him or USC to be successful as I will not do for any opponent. I will not shed a tear if USC finishes last in the PAC 10, 12 or whatever they are now.

[tim]

F em.

[volroadwarrior]

Originally Posted by dlw4n

I won't cheer for USC, but I'm also not going to wish ill on some 17 year old kid that I've never met. I've got better things to do than that.

Thanks for the clarification. My thoughts exactly.

[sanddune50]

Originally Posted by UTwon

First, UT is not a bottom dweller in the sec. And the kid needs to think harder if he buys what Kiffin is saying. Let's assume UT is what LK says. He inherited a historic pprogram with a recent national championship from arguably a hall of fame coach who lost his edge in the last couple of years.. The program was down a couple of years when LK got it. If it is where he says now,he put it there. That would mean LK isn't a very good coach.

Kiffin is a bonehead that uses cherry picked timelines and outright lies to convince kids on what he is selling. He is part of why Tennessee is in middle to lower tier status going into the season. I really hope Pat Hayden is using Kiffin as nothing more than a transitional coach to get through sanctions and then kicks this bum to the curb.

[Tux]

Without having read this thread, I am probably very accurate in saying that this thread is more pissing and moaning from the whiners.

In recruiting, you are not always going to get who you want. You win some battles and you lose some battles.

Press on.

[7thgroupvolfan]

Originally Posted by FredWhite2

You two can feel free to hit the ignore button to me anytime you like if you don't like what I have to contribute.

Stop playing games Fred. We all know you are running an intel circle in bucksnort to gather all of the most credible info out there and share it with us here on VN. You guys from Bucksnort are too humble, imo.

[Vol2424]

Originally Posted by 7thgroupvolfan

Stop playing games Fred. We all now you are running an intel circle in bucksnort to gather all of the most credible info out there and share it with us here on VN. You guys from Bucksnort are too humble, imo.

[DERELICK_MY_VOLS]

Who cares.......we need to focus on the matters at hand.....not a kid that wants to goto USC....next please.

[jessee james]

He will be back.

[Hoss Diesel]

I am very proud to be a member of a Vol board with so many insiders!!

Keep up the good info it is so awesome to be so close to the program.

[Yankee_Vol]

Originally Posted by mdrew27

Referring to the OP's first paragraph; I could care less if people dogged him on social media. He should understand that kiff is a d-bag and Franklin is a bigger d-bag. And if he doesn't understand it then he needs to hear about it Via whatever means people care to use. Last time I checked I have free speech and will use that freedom how I see fit. I hate USCw and anything associated with them.

Appartly lacking maturity though. Bash a KID, great idea

[Rocky-Top 10EC]

Didn't want him anyway

Can't wait till he meets Eric Berry over the middle

Rod have mercy on his soul

[northknoxvol]

I say good luck to him at USC! It would have been interesting to see what Kiffen could have done here if Pete would have not left.

[Vol2424]

Is it just me.....or is this just like the other Ramsey thread?