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07-15-2012, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by HvilleCommando I'd like to start by saying i'm in full support of Dooley and hope he does well for us. I also decided to post this here because it has alot to do with recruiting and just the fact that people in the football forum may not understand where i'm coming from.
This is just something i think this staff should be doing, and something that could be fixed relatively easily and could help greatly benefit us. If you've noticed, our staff does little to connect with the UT fan base and get people outside the program EXCITED about the direction of our program. Us Vol fans are limited to mere Post-practice youtube videos during fall camp to get an idea of whats going on with our program or the occational newpaper article with an inside track.
I hate to compare Dooley and James Franklin, but I say this because he is a good example. You look at Derek Dooley's twitter, and he has 0 tweets. He does nothing to connect to our fanbase and thank them for our support and encourage them to keep supporting the team and tell the public about the POSITIVE DIRECTION of our program. James Franklin and their entire staff on the other hand has done an exceptional job at creating excitement about the direction of their program and much of that is due to the fact that they reach out to what few fans they have to encourage more support and to thank them.
And coming from a 19 year old kid at UT... High school recruits eat this stuff up, I can promise you. They love to see programs with a "buzz" around it... A program that is on the rise...Our program is back on the rise, but our staff does little to make the general public understand that. I think it's fair to say that we are failing to create a buzz for this upcoming season and for the program's future in general.
Sometimes Big Brother needs to swallow his pride and can learn something from Little Brother every once in awhile..
Now im not trying to make this a thread about Twitter. Twitter is just one of many ways coaches can reach out to the public. I'm using it becuase it is a great example of what im talking about and can be easily referenced. Kiffin had too much hot sauce, but right now we dont have any sauce.. What say you? | I agree with you some. But does Nick Saban get on twitter or does he just win National Championships. Including two out of the last three. |
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07-15-2012, 08:05 AM
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#32 (permalink)
| | Eternal Vol Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Deep Woods and Swamps of West Tn
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Originally Posted by Defaultuser Good post op. You being of a younger generation would understand what gets kids around your age excited. | If twitter posts get these younger guys excited, then we are in bigger trouble than I thought
P***Y, smashing heads on the field, and running through the T in front of 100,000 rabid UT fans that would lick the ground you ran on, is excitement
Not some MFin coach sitting behind their desk, with one hand on his smartphone and the other on his balls, tryin to think of something catchy to say about his pathetic football program
WTF is wrong with some of you guys.
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07-15-2012, 08:08 AM
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| Why are some of you all still talking and comparing us to Vandy?
James Franklin has completely gotten into some of our fans heads. Talking about him and Vandy is just giving him exactly what he wants.
Who gives a crap if Dooley doesn't hot sauce our fan base? All coaches have their own way of doing things and that's not how Dooley operates.
If he wins games then that's all the excitement I need. |
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07-15-2012, 08:17 AM
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| Look at the list of guys we have coming to camp this week and then tell me that the staff is not doing anything to create a "buzz" around the program. Tell me Jay Graham isn't making huge strides when it comes to recruiting running backs and creating a "buzz" around RB recruits wanting to be coached by him. Tell me Ansley isn't creating a "buzz" with his ability to relate to these current day recruits. I understand that when you've been down you need to look at changing the way you do certain things but our coach getting on twitter and talking about "star power on campus" or "volunteerville" being crazy would sound childish and ridiculous. I'm more concerned with the one on one conversations that happen on the phone and face to face with these young men that we desire to wear the colors one day.
You make an impact and create a buzz through persistent and personal contact with these recruits and their families. That will go further than anything some dumbass from Vandyville posts on twitter.
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07-15-2012, 08:18 AM
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| New vandy white helmets look kinda cool. |
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07-15-2012, 08:24 AM
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| | You huge girl!! | I think some of the UT fans forget that most of the kids we recruit, didn't grow up as UT fans. This is a "what have you done lately" business, and we haven't done much lately. You have to do something to generate a buzz or put yourself in the spotlight, and Dooley has done none of that. He maybe using the "Saban" method to work his plan, but he's not Saban, he's Derek Dooley. Winning does have a lot to do with recruiting, but kids almost always commit to coaches, not the school, which is why everyone worries when you have a coaching change late in the recruiting cycle. Do you honestly think that Bama would be landing the classes it does, if it wasn't for Saban or Smart??
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07-15-2012, 08:25 AM
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| | You huge girl!! | Quote:
Originally Posted by teamdeke Look at the list of guys we have coming to camp this week and then tell me that the staff is not doing anything to create a "buzz" around the program. Tell me Jay Graham isn't making huge strides when it comes to recruiting running backs and creating a "buzz" around RB recruits wanting to be coached by him. Tell me Ansley isn't creating a "buzz" with his ability to relate to these current day recruits. I understand that when you've been down you need to look at changing the way you do certain things but our coach getting on twitter and talking about "star power on campus" or "volunteerville" being crazy would sound childish and ridiculous. I'm more concerned with the one on one conversations that happen on the phone and face to face with these young men that we desire to wear the colors one day.
You make an impact and create a buzz through persistent and personal contact with these recruits and their families. That will go further than anything some dumbass from Vandyville posts on twitter. | Outside of UT fans, who knows who is coming to camp??
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07-15-2012, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric Outside of UT fans, who knows who is coming to camp?? | Recruits stay in touch more than we know through these social networking sites so amongst the high school athletes, they know who is going where and when. Outside of the recruits and UT fans, who else really needs to know?
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07-15-2012, 08:38 AM
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| | Technical Difficulties | Much as criticize Dooley, I really don't have a problem with him here. This is his to handle how he wishes, win and losses is what I care about. |
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07-15-2012, 08:39 AM
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#40 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by g8terh8ter_eric Outside of UT fans, who knows who is coming to camp?? | Outside of UT fans, who really cares who is coming to camp? Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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07-15-2012, 08:42 AM
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| | You huge girl!! | Quote:
Originally Posted by teamdeke Recruits stay in touch more than we know through these social networking sites so amongst the high school athletes, they know who is going where and when. Outside of the recruits and UT fans, who else really needs to know? | That's kind of my point. Outside of UT fans, no one is going to know who is coming to camp. UT fans get excited when they see who is coming to camp, but rival coaches could care less about it. Sure, getting them on campus is a good thing, but it's the unofficials and officials that mean more.
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07-15-2012, 08:48 AM
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| It's funny that a young dude comes on here and posts about they like some "hot sauce". All of our older heads say "Dooley shouldn't be doing this or that" or "Saban doesn't do it". But Dooley doesn't have a bit of jewelry to pull off the Saban style of recruiting. Mark Richt changed up his recruiting strategy some and he has a decent W/L percentage. Dooley doesn't have to go all out but when he had all the kids screaming VFL there was a bit of buzz around the program. I wouldn't mind seeing us do something similar to Big Cat Weekend or DawgNight. Invite the prospects you think will help the program and go from there. I am impressed with all the kids that'll be here next week though(good job staff). But kids like to be hyped up that's why different unis and things create buzz sometimes. |
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07-15-2012, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rickyyrs I agree with you some. But does Nick Saban get on twitter or does he just win National Championships. Including two out of the last three. | You did not just go there. Derek Dooley hasnt won anything. Saban has a product that sells itself, dooley has one that he should be paying others to buy into. |
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07-15-2012, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Vol2424 Fail.
He did so In the locker room with his team. Not in public. He did what any coach would do. He celebrated with the team after a win in overtime. Total shock , right? Try again , Otis.
He wasn't bull****ting when he reminded the team we always kick the **** out of Vandy. It wasn't his fault the video got out. If you want to see classless , watch the reaction of Saif Franklin when he leaves the field. He showed his ass more than CDD ever did that night. Y'all need to get off Franklin's nuts. | I dont like Franklin for the record,just saying u must have forgot how close we were to 4 and 8..as a vol fan that i am, that's not good enough.And dooley was braging about a game he one on a messed up ref call.. |
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07-15-2012, 08:53 AM
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#45 (permalink)
| | Senior Member | Was it Dooley or kiffin's grad assistant that tweeted us into a secondary? Maybe it's not worth the trouble for him. |
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