I hope alot of folks here were watching the NFL Draft

[The Waco Kid]

They were discussing on Twitter and in a few other areas the star rankings of some of these kids when they were coming out of high school, and there was a significant amount of 3 stars and a couple of 2 star kids who are now multi-millionaires.

Barton Simmons says people tend to forget that star rankings only evaluate physical talent, and not necessarily how competitive a guy is, how he fits into a system, but physical attributes only, and those can be misleading.

Their point was it's fun to say you have all 4 and 5 stars, but you are an idiot if you immediately dismiss guys because "they are only 3 stars" and start freaking out when someone else gets a 4 or 5 star player. I guess we do it because we are fans, but tend to overemphasize team rankings.

TRUST YOUR COACHES AND YOUR PROGRAM.

[catchnburn]

Agree.

How about Cody Pearcy from Huntingdon College in Alabama?
I would guess that he wasn't rated in high school.

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[LynxVol]

I know what you're saying, but more often than not, the ranking system works. That is statistically proven. If your a numbers guy, you'll go with the 4 and 5 stars.

[BigOrangeD]

Originally Posted by The Waco Kid

They were discussing on Twitter and in a few other areas the star rankings of some of these kids when they were coming out of high school, and there was a significant amount of 3 stars and a couple of 2 star kids who are now multi-millionaires.

Barton Simmons says people tend to forget that star rankings only evaluate physical talent, and not necessarily how competitive a guy is, how he fits into a system, but physical attributes only, and those can be misleading.

Their point was it's fun to say you have all 4 and 5 stars, but you are an idiot if you immediately dismiss guys because "they are only 3 stars" and start freaking out when someone else gets a 4 or 5 star player. I guess we do it because we are fans, but tend to overemphasize team rankings.

TRUST YOUR COACHES AND YOUR PROGRAM.

I only freak out when we offer 2 *s.

[The Waco Kid]

An example................Terrelle Pryor, Mike Glennon, EJ Manuel, Dayne Crist, and Blaine Gabbert were all ranked higher than Andrew Luck.

Morris Claiborne was a 3-star recruit..............how'd that turn out for LSU?

Brandon Weeden was unranked.

Dontari Poe was a 2 star.

kendall Wright a 3-star.

You can see the pattern..................enough with the "but he's only a 3-star" nonsense and focus on the positives the kid brings to your program.

[The Waco Kid]

Originally Posted by LynxVol

I know what you're saying, but more often than not, the ranking system works. That is statistically proven. If your a numbers guy, you'll go with the 4 and 5 stars.

No, i hear ya, and I'm not dismissing it entirely, but let's pump our brakes a little when our programs "only" get a 3 star guy..........Brandon James was a 2 star, and Tennessee fans know all about him.

[The Waco Kid]

Originally Posted by LynxVol

I know what you're saying, but more often than not, the ranking system works. That is statistically proven. If your a numbers guy, you'll go with the 4 and 5 stars.

I guess part of my point is to do what fans do not want to do.................and that's trust your coaches and their staff to get the guys who fill fit your system.

There is something to be said about having 3 star guys who will be 4 year players in your system.

[utvolpj]

Originally Posted by The Waco Kid

No, i hear ya, and I'm not dismissing it entirely, but let's pump our brakes a little when our programs "only" get a 3 star guy..........Brandon James was a 2 star, and Tennessee fans know all about him.

James was a 3*

the number of 5* vs the number of 3* and below make a simple eval useless. Of course they'll get drafted because there are so many more of them

[The Waco Kid]

Originally Posted by utvolpj

James was a 3*

the number of 5* vs the number of 3* and below make a simple eval useless. Of course they'll get drafted because there are so many more of them

James was a 2 star on Scout bro and a 3 star on Rivals...........only reason he got an offer was so we would lock up his half-brother jacques Rickerson who was a 4 star kid. Rickerson ended up leaving Florida and James went down as the best special teams player in school history, and one of the best in SEC history.

If you want a good laugh at EXACTLY what i am talking about, go read the "Anyone heard of Dontari Poe" thread.

[utvolpj]

Originally Posted by The Waco Kid

James was a 2 star bro...........and if you wanta good laugh at EXACTLY what i am talking about, go read the "Anyone heard of Dontari Poe" thread.

Brandon James - Yahoo! Sports

there's a reason players go to schools like Memphis and very rarely is it that everyone in the country missed on them

[VolMaster14]

Originally Posted by The Waco Kid

I guess part of my point is to do what fans do not want to do.................and that's trust your coaches and their staff to get the guys who fill fit your system.

There is something to be said about having 3 star guys who will be 4 year players in your system.

I'm not a star gazer by any means, I trust the coaches evaluation, although I wont argue getting Top 250 guys either. Find it a little strange though, a Gator started this kinda thread considering your teams roster is loaded with 4 and 5 star guys.

[The Waco Kid]

Originally Posted by utvolpj

James was a 3*

the number of 5* vs the number of 3* and below make a simple eval useless. Of course they'll get drafted because there are so many more of them

The argument still remains the same then..........if there are a limited number of 5 stars out there, don't be mad when your school doesn't get all of them, or doesn't get as many as you think you should get.

Be thankful you get kids WHO WANT TO BE VOLS.

[VolMaster14]

Originally Posted by The Waco Kid

James was a 2 star on Scout bro and a 3 star on Rivals...........only reason he got an offer was so we would lock up his half-brother jacques Rickerson who was a 4 star kid. Rickerson ended up leaving Florida and James went down as the best special teams player in school history, and one of the best in SEC history.

If you want a good laugh at EXACTLY what i am talking about, go read the "Anyone heard of Dontari Poe" thread.

Scout is a 2 star rating service imo!

[The Waco Kid]

Originally Posted by VolMaster14

I'm not a star gazer by any means, I trust the coaches evaluation, although I wont argue getting Top 250 guys either. Find it a little strange though, a Gator started this kinda thread considering your teams roster is loaded with 4 and 5 star guys.

Yeah, and that has done us alot of good the last 2 years, hasn't it?

More proof that 4 and 5 star talent DOES NOT guarantee success.

You proved the exact point of my argument. star rankings are misleading.

[utvolpj]

Originally Posted by The Waco Kid

The argument still remains the same then..........if there are a limited number of 5 stars out there, don't be mad when your school doesn't get all of them, or doesn't get as many as you think you should get.

Be thankful you get kids WHO WANT TO BE VOLS.

can't wait to get beat with a team full of Vol fans that are 2-3*. The teams competing for titles have top ranked classes. Not all players evals are correct but they are a good guideline

Originally Posted by The Waco Kid

Yeah, and that has done us alot of good the last 2 years, hasn't it?

can't help it if your coaching sucks