Recruiting Forum: Football Talk

[nicksjuzunk]

Originally Posted by UTChicagoV

2000 total yards is not out of the realm of possibility. IMO, if he's our starting back, he'll get the usual rushes, but will also get his fair share of catches out of the backfield...

No back will get enough touches to approach those numbers.

I would settle for 1,200 from our starter and an extra 1,000 from the rest

[vol2013]

Originally Posted by tnfalcon

With Mo, Hood, Tugboat, and now possibly Taylor stepping into that role we should have some bodies. But like you and Nick have said, a 4-3 may be the best option without McCullers in the game.

Don't forget though that we'll probably play alot of nickel with all the DBs we have.

Has anything been said on how Carson has been doing recently? He was better than I expected on goal line situations last year, but have not heard anything on him lately. Also, on that same topic what about Saulsberry at end? Remembered hearing about him during workouts how he had lost weight and was in good shape, but have not heard anything since.

[VolFromNashville]

I just hope no one gets seriously injured. That's the fastest way to have a season get derailed.

[UTChicagoV]

Originally Posted by nicksjuzunk

No back will get enough touches to approach those numbers.

I would settle for 1,200 from our starter and an extra 1,000 from the rest

My bad, wasn't referring to just rushing. I think that if we keep him in with Lane/D-Young/whomever then he could be targeted out of the backfield. 1200-1400 rushing with some decent games catching the ball would put him within striking distance of 2000 Total Yards.

[jmoore_21]

Here is my breakdown of how I hope our 3-4 defensive depth chart looks by the N.C. State game:

DE: Darrington Sentimore(6'3", 288lbs), Trent Taylor (6'3", 280lbs), Corey Miller (6'3", 275lbs), Jordan Williams (6'5", 255lbs)

NT: Daniel McCullers(6'7, 370lbs), Daniel Hood (6'4", 293lbs), Danny O'Brien (6'2", 293lbs), Alan Carson (6'2", 320lbs), Greg Clark (6'2", 318lbs)

DE: Maruice Couch(6'2", 295lbs), Marlon Walls (6'2", 283lbs), Steven Fowlkes (6'5", 255lbs), Trevarris Saulsberry (6'5", 280lbs)

SLB: Curt Maggitt (6'3", 227lbs), Brent Brewer (6'1", 225lbs), Dontavius Sapp (6'2", 223lbs)

ILB: Herman Lathers (6'0", 225lbs), Greg King (6'2", 238lbs), Nigel Mitchell-Thornton (6'1", 239lbs), Channing Fugate (6'1", 223lbs), Kenneth Bynum (6'1", 213lbs)

ILB: A.J. Johnson (6'3", 244lbs), Raiques Crump (6'1", 220lbs), John Propst (6'0", 225lbs), Justin King (6'3", 212lbs), Christian Harris (6'2", 238lbs)

JLB: Jacques Smith (6'2", 244lbs), Willie Bohannon (6'2", 255lbs), LaTroy Lewis (6'4", 235lbs)

CB: Prentiss Waggner (6'2", 180lbs), Eric Gordon (5'9"', 197lbs), Tino Thomas (6'0" 199lbs), Daniel Gray (6'0", 165lbs)

CB: Izauea Lanier (6'1", 188lbs), Marsalis Teague (5'10", 183lbs), Justin Coleman (5'10", 180lbs), Deion Bonner (5'11", 185lbs)

S: Brian Randolph (6'0", 189lbs), LaDarrell McNeil (6'1", 190lbs)

S: Byron Moore (6'1", 196lbs), Rod Wilks (6'0", 217lbs)

* Black Bolded Indicates Starter

* This depth chart is relying on a few things:

1) McCullers is able to come in & give us 20-25 snaps a game as the startng NT.

2) Corey Miller gets his grades in order & is back w/ the team in the summer.

3) Herman Lathers can get his ankle back to being 90-95% healthy.

4) We stay healthy through the summer & fall camps.

* I also think that Jordan Williams could give us some snaps as a DE or Jack LB, he played the Jack position in HS.

* I think Maggitt is better suited for the Strong LB spot, especially if Lathers is healthy & can be a starter Inside.

* Hubbs has mentioned numerous times that Byron Moore has been getting the first team reps at Saftey along w/ Randolph, they said he has started to come on as of late.

* Hubbs has alos mentioned the same for Raqiues Crump, he had been gettting some first team reps at ILB for a few practices.

* I think Danny O'Brien can get well over 300lbs by August & could give us some snaps at NT or DE.

[tnfalcon]

Originally Posted by vol2013

Has anything been said on how Carson has been doing recently?

Haven't heard, but he's built to play NT, albeit a shorter one.

[UTChicagoV]

Originally Posted by nicksjuzunk

A couple of injuries could devastate our defense. The increase in talent and depth have been nice, but we are still not deep enough to roll with our second string and tread water.

Agree 100%, the talent upgrade is great and we'll reap the benefits of it in the years to come, but a few injuries this Fall will get us back to pushing some fairly inexperienced players into starting roles which they will likely not be ready for.

[vol2013]

Originally Posted by jmoore_21

Here is my breakdown of how I hope our 3-4 defensive depth chart looks by the N.C. State game:

DE: Darrington Sentimore(6'3", 288lbs), Trent Taylor (6'3", 280lbs), Corey Miller (6'3", 275lbs), Jordan Williams (6'5", 255lbs)

NT: Daniel McCullers(6'7, 370lbs), Daniel Hood (6'4", 293lbs), Danny O'Brien (6'2", 293lbs), Alan Carson (6'2", 320lbs), Greg Clark (6'2", 318lbs)

DE: Maruice Couch(6'2", 295lbs), Marlon Walls (6'2", 283lbs), Steven Fowlkes (6'5", 255lbs), Trevarris Saulsberry (6'5", 280lbs)

SLB: Curt Maggitt (6'3", 227lbs), Brent Brewer (6'1", 225lbs), Dontavius Sapp (6'2", 223lbs)

ILB: Herman Lathers (6'0", 225lbs), Greg King (6'2", 238lbs), Nigel Mitchell-Thornton (6'1", 239lbs), Channing Fugate (6'1", 223lbs), Kenneth Bynum (6'1", 213lbs)

ILB: A.J. Johnson (6'3", 244lbs), Raiques Crump (6'1", 220lbs), John Propst (6'0", 225lbs), Justin King (6'3", 212lbs), Christian Harris (6'2", 238lbs)

JLB: Jacques Smith (6'2", 244lbs), Willie Bohannon (6'2", 255lbs), LaTroy Lewis (6'4", 235lbs)

CB: Prentiss Waggner (6'2", 180lbs), Eric Gordon (5'9"', 197lbs), Tino Thomas (6'0" 199lbs), Daniel Gray (6'0", 165lbs)

CB: Izauea Lanier (6'1", 188lbs), Marsalis Teague (5'10", 183lbs), Justin Coleman (5'10", 180lbs), Deion Bonner (5'11", 185lbs)

S: Brian Randolph (6'0", 189lbs), LaDarrell McNeil (6'1", 190lbs)

S: Byron Moore (6'1", 196lbs), Rod Wilks (6'0", 217lbs)

* Black Bolded Indicates Starter

* This depth chart is relying on a few things:

1) McCullers is able to come in & give us 20-25 snaps a game as the startng NT.

2) Corey Miller gets his grades in order & is back w/ the team in the summer.

3) Herman Lathers can get his ankle back to being 90-95% healthy.

4) We stay healthy through the summer & fall camps.

* I also think that Jordan Williams could give us some snaps as a DE or Jack LB, he played the Jack position in HS.

* I think Maggitt is better suited for the Strong LB spot, especially if Lathers is healthy & can be a starter Inside.

* Hubbs has mentioned numerous times that Byron Moore has been getting the first team reps at Saftey along w/ Randolph, they said he has started to come on as of late.

* Hubbs has alos mentioned the same for Raqiues Crump, he had been gettting some first team reps at ILB for a few practices.

* I think Danny O'Brien can get well over 300lbs by August & could give us some snaps at NT or DE.

Looks about right to me, I just do not see Teague staying in the two deep though.

[tnfalcon]

Originally Posted by vol2013

Looks about right to me, I just do not see Teague staying in the two deep though.

I think Gordon is perfectly suited to play nickel.

[UTChicagoV]

Originally Posted by jmoore_21

Here is my breakdown of how I hope our 3-4 defensive depth chart looks by the N.C. State game:

DE: Darrington Sentimore(6'3", 288lbs), Trent Taylor (6'3", 280lbs), Corey Miller (6'3", 275lbs), Jordan Williams (6'5", 255lbs)

NT: Daniel McCullers(6'7, 370lbs), Daniel Hood (6'4", 293lbs), Danny O'Brien (6'2", 293lbs), Alan Carson (6'2", 320lbs), Greg Clark (6'2", 318lbs)

DE: Maruice Couch(6'2", 295lbs), Marlon Walls (6'2", 283lbs), Steven Fowlkes (6'5", 255lbs), Trevarris Saulsberry (6'5", 280lbs)

SLB: Curt Maggitt (6'3", 227lbs), Brent Brewer (6'1", 225lbs), Dontavius Sapp (6'2", 223lbs)

ILB: Herman Lathers (6'0", 225lbs), Greg King (6'2", 238lbs), Nigel Mitchell-Thornton (6'1", 239lbs), Channing Fugate (6'1", 223lbs), Kenneth Bynum (6'1", 213lbs)

ILB: A.J. Johnson (6'3", 244lbs), Raiques Crump (6'1", 220lbs), John Propst (6'0", 225lbs), Justin King (6'3", 212lbs), Christian Harris (6'2", 238lbs)

JLB: Jacques Smith (6'2", 244lbs), Willie Bohannon (6'2", 255lbs), LaTroy Lewis (6'4", 235lbs)

CB: Prentiss Waggner (6'2", 180lbs), Eric Gordon (5'9"', 197lbs), Tino Thomas (6'0" 199lbs), Daniel Gray (6'0", 165lbs)

CB: Izauea Lanier (6'1", 188lbs), Marsalis Teague (5'10", 183lbs), Justin Coleman (5'10", 180lbs), Deion Bonner (5'11", 185lbs)

S: Brian Randolph (6'0", 189lbs), LaDarrell McNeil (6'1", 190lbs)

S: Byron Moore (6'1", 196lbs), Rod Wilks (6'0", 217lbs)

* Black Bolded Indicates Starter

* This depth chart is relying on a few things:

1) McCullers is able to come in & give us 20-25 snaps a game as the startng NT.

2) Corey Miller gets his grades in order & is back w/ the team in the summer.

3) Herman Lathers can get his ankle back to being 90-95% healthy.

4) We stay healthy through the summer & fall camps.

* I also think that Jordan Williams could give us some snaps as a DE or Jack LB, he played the Jack position in HS.

* I think Maggitt is better suited for the Strong LB spot, especially if Lathers is healthy & can be a starter Inside.

* Hubbs has mentioned numerous times that Byron Moore has been getting the first team reps at Saftey along w/ Randolph, they said he has started to come on as of late.

* Hubbs has alos mentioned the same for Raqiues Crump, he had been gettting some first team reps at ILB for a few practices.

* I think Danny O'Brien can get well over 300lbs by August & could give us some snaps at NT or DE.

LOVE the size we've built up in the front 7.

A Few Questions.
1) Has Brewer fully converted to LB?
2) Wasn't Taylor being mentioned as a part of the NT Rotation?
3) How has J-Smith looked in his move from DE to a standup LB?

[tnfalcon]

Originally Posted by UTChicagoV

2) Wasn't Taylor being mentioned as a part of the NT Rotation?

Will probably take some time for him to bulk up to play NT, but in the mean time DE in 3-4 sets and some DT in 4-3 sets should be where he plays imo.

[Vols4us]

I hope this thread works.

Agree on Maggitt. I want to see him in different spots on the field where they never know where he might be coming from. I don't see Teague in the two deep either. Orta should be in the mix at safety.

[volstopfan14]

Originally Posted by jmoore_21

Here is my breakdown of how I hope our 3-4 defensive depth chart looks by the N.C. State game:

DE: Darrington Sentimore(6'3", 288lbs), Trent Taylor (6'3", 280lbs), Corey Miller (6'3", 275lbs), Jordan Williams (6'5", 255lbs)

NT: Daniel McCullers(6'7, 370lbs), Daniel Hood (6'4", 293lbs), Danny O'Brien (6'2", 293lbs), Alan Carson (6'2", 320lbs), Greg Clark (6'2", 318lbs)

DE: Maruice Couch(6'2", 295lbs), Marlon Walls (6'2", 283lbs), Steven Fowlkes (6'5", 255lbs), Trevarris Saulsberry (6'5", 280lbs)

SLB: Curt Maggitt (6'3", 227lbs), Brent Brewer (6'1", 225lbs), Dontavius Sapp (6'2", 223lbs)

ILB: Herman Lathers (6'0", 225lbs), Greg King (6'2", 238lbs), Nigel Mitchell-Thornton (6'1", 239lbs), Channing Fugate (6'1", 223lbs), Kenneth Bynum (6'1", 213lbs)

ILB: A.J. Johnson (6'3", 244lbs), Raiques Crump (6'1", 220lbs), John Propst (6'0", 225lbs), Justin King (6'3", 212lbs), Christian Harris (6'2", 238lbs)

JLB: Jacques Smith (6'2", 244lbs), Willie Bohannon (6'2", 255lbs), LaTroy Lewis (6'4", 235lbs)

CB: Prentiss Waggner (6'2", 180lbs), Eric Gordon (5'9"', 197lbs), Tino Thomas (6'0" 199lbs), Daniel Gray (6'0", 165lbs)

CB: Izauea Lanier (6'1", 188lbs), Marsalis Teague (5'10", 183lbs), Justin Coleman (5'10", 180lbs), Deion Bonner (5'11", 185lbs)

S: Brian Randolph (6'0", 189lbs), LaDarrell McNeil (6'1", 190lbs)

S: Byron Moore (6'1", 196lbs), Rod Wilks (6'0", 217lbs)

* Black Bolded Indicates Starter

* This depth chart is relying on a few things:

1) McCullers is able to come in & give us 20-25 snaps a game as the startng NT.

2) Corey Miller gets his grades in order & is back w/ the team in the summer.

3) Herman Lathers can get his ankle back to being 90-95% healthy.

4) We stay healthy through the summer & fall camps.

* I also think that Jordan Williams could give us some snaps as a DE or Jack LB, he played the Jack position in HS.

* I think Maggitt is better suited for the Strong LB spot, especially if Lathers is healthy & can be a starter Inside.

* Hubbs has mentioned numerous times that Byron Moore has been getting the first team reps at Saftey along w/ Randolph, they said he has started to come on as of late.

* Hubbs has alos mentioned the same for Raqiues Crump, he had been gettting some first team reps at ILB for a few practices.

* I think Danny O'Brien can get well over 300lbs by August & could give us some snaps at NT or DE.

I agree with this. I think your starters in the front 7 are perfect. Brewer could be best coming of the bench as a nickel LB.

[VolMaster14]

Originally Posted by VolFromNashville

I just hope no one gets seriously injured. That's the fastest way to have a season get derailed.

If we stay healthy, we are east contenders.

[lovavol]

Originally Posted by tnfalcon

Don't forget his receiving production.


Seriously though he could be special as a dual-threat back in this offense.

as long as he holds on to the rock