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03-29-2012, 12:00 PM
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#76 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by StlCardinals2618 He tore an acl, his weight has nothing to do with that. That isn't an injury someone gets for not being physically prepared. Do you think Moss was that heavy in college?
Hunter destroys man coverage. That is one huge thing that makes him elite. | Since you love to pull the competition card what good CB has Hunter destroyed? What season has he produced all year? So is he a 1-3 game wonder? Will he disappear over the season? Oh okay I love my UT WRs but these are facts I want to find out. If you don't think the scouts are asking these questions about Hunter you're crazy dude. Oh yeah I would definitely put 5 racks up on Sammy being a first round draft pick if he were to come out this year. Meachem went first round and Watkins is a much better WR. |
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03-29-2012, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Breakerboy Since you love to pull the competition card what good CB has Hunter destroyed? What season has he produced all year? So is he a 1-3 game wonder? Will he disappear over the season? Oh okay I love my UT WRs but these are facts I want to find out. If you don't think the scouts are asking these questions about Hunter you're crazy dude. Oh yeah I would definitely put 5 racks up on Sammy being a first round draft pick if he were to come out this year. Meachem went first round and Watkins is a much better WR. | Scouts absolutely love Hunter. Corner on vq talks to scouts all the time and they said that Hunter is one of the best recievers they have seen in a long time. He said he asked a scout who has better between Hunter and Darick and the scout laughed in his face saying that it wasn't even a comparison.
Robert Meachem is a good comparison to him, and guess where Meaches was drafted. The 27th pick. I said I think Watkins is a late first round pick. |
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03-29-2012, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by StlCardinals2618 Ok look up Demaryius Thomas stats in college and look at Kendall Wright's stats. Who would you draft first? | Your kidding right.. How on earth can you compare D. Thomas stats in a wing t offense and still posted 1,000 yards receiving to Kendall Wrights in a spread offense..
But I take D. Thomas over Kendall wright and his 4.61 40 |
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03-29-2012, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by StlCardinals2618 Scouts absolutely love Hunter. Corner on vq talks to scouts all the time and they said that Hunter is one of the best recievers they have seen in a long time. He said he asked a scout who has better between Hunter and Darick and the scout laughed in his face saying that it wasn't even a comparison.
Robert Meachem is a good comparison to him, and guess where Meaches was drafted. The 27th pick. I said I think Watkins is a late first round pick. | No you said he wouldn't go in the first round this year. Now you do realize your comparing a 4th year junior(Meachem) to a freshman(Watkins). The same kid you didn't give a first round grade to. Like I said about Hunter those are questions that will be asked. Never said he wasn't a first round pick. I know he's a No.1 WR. I trust in him when it comes to any matchup. But I stated facts sir to back up my argument. Oh and Watkins is better than Meachem was that year for us. Let me ask you something. Was Donte Stallworth a WR or a Desean Jackson type of guy? Because we ran reverses with him(ask Michigan). |
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03-29-2012, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The Breakerboy No you said he wouldn't go in the first round this year. Now you do realize your comparing a 4th year junior(Meachem) to a freshman(Watkins). The same kid you didn't give a first round grade to. Like I said about Hunter those are questions that will be asked. Never said he wasn't a first round pick. I know he's a No.1 WR. I trust in him when it comes to any matchup. But I stated facts sir to back up my argument. Oh and Watkins is better than Meachem was that year for us. Let me ask you something. Was Donte Stallworth a WR or a Desean Jackson type of guy? Because we ran reverses with him(ask Michigan). | The toughest defense clemson(Sammy Watkins) faced last year was South Carolina where they lost 34 to 13. Sammy watkins had 4 cathches for 39 yards and NO TOUCHDOWNS!!!.... that is what you call an SEC defense....lol!!!! |
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03-29-2012, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The Breakerboy No you said he wouldn't go in the first round this year. Now you do realize your comparing a 4th year junior(Meachem) to a freshman(Watkins). The same kid you didn't give a first round grade to. Like I said about Hunter those are questions that will be asked. Never said he wasn't a first round pick. I know he's a No.1 WR. I trust in him when it comes to any matchup. But I stated facts sir to back up my argument. Oh and Watkins is better than Meachem was that year for us. Let me ask you something. Was Donte Stallworth a WR or a Desean Jackson type of guy? Because we ran reverses with him(ask Michigan). | Darick ran about 12 reverses his freshmen year, does that make him that type of reciever? No, it doesnt. Clemson's goal was to get sammy Watkins in open space, and that is what they did. Whether it be screens, slants, reverses, wildcats, etc. They're main focus was getting him in open space. You don't have to do that for Hunter. Hunter creates space by himself. Clemson runs a fast-paced spread offense. It is really hard to evaluate a player in that system. Meachem was in a pro-style offense. It is a big difference. You can really utilize players with Watkins skill-set in a spread.
Do you not think question won't be asked about Watkins?
How will he do in a pro-style offense?
Can he create separation by himself?
Can he be used as a number 1 reciever? |
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03-29-2012, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MoB_MoVols Your kidding right.. How on earth can you compare D. Thomas stats in a wing t offense and still posted 1,000 yards receiving to Kendall Wrights in a spread offense..
But I take D. Thomas over Kendall wright and his 4.61 40 | Do you know what Anquan Boldin's 40 was in the draft?
So your saying because Wright is in a spread offense, he will have better stats. What kind of offense do you think Clemson runs?
D. Thomas was the only reciever in Georgia Tech's offense. He got all the yards. You can run a lot play actions and option passes to get him open. |
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03-29-2012, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MoB_MoVols Your kidding right.. How on earth can you compare D. Thomas stats in a wing t offense and still posted 1,000 yards receiving to Kendall Wrights in a spread offense..
But I take D. Thomas over Kendall wright and his 4.61 40 | Another example, Jonathan Baldwin or Tavon Austin |
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03-29-2012, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by StlCardinals2618 Do you know what Anquan Boldin's 40 was in the draft?
So your saying because Wright is in a spread offense, he will have better stats. What kind of offense do you think Clemson runs?
D. Thomas was the only reciever in Georgia Tech's offense. He got all the yards. You can run a lot play actions and option passes to get him open. | He (Wright) was clearly the go to guy for RGIII.. and while you can run a lot of PA in the wing T, without a doubt we all know you have lots more opportunities to catch lots of balls in a spread as oppose to a wing T.. Clemson's O is a spread O but more to the tune of AU's spread where it's run first as oppose to Mizzou's
And Anquan Boldin was good because of Larry Fitz. dont get it twisted
Who would you take D. Thomas or Kendall wright
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03-29-2012, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MoB_MoVols He (Wright) was clearly the go to guy for RGIII.. and while you can run a lot of PA in the wing T, without a doubt we all know you have lots more opportunities to catch lots of balls in a spread as oppose to a wing T.. Clemson's O is a spread O but more to the tune of AU's spread where it's run first as oppose to Mizzou's
And Anquan Boldin was good because of Larry Fitz. dont get it twisted | Quan was good because he was good. Don't take him down like that. |
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03-29-2012, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MoB_MoVols He (Wright) was clearly the go to guy for RGIII.. and while you can run a lot of PA in the wing T, without a doubt we all know you have lots more opportunities to catch lots of balls in a spread as oppose to a wing T.. Clemson's O is a spread O but more to the tune of AU's spread where it's run first as oppose to Mizzou's
And Anquan Boldin was good because of Larry Fitz. dont get it twisted | Anquan was good because of Fitz? Are you serious right now? Anquan had 1300 yards and 8 touchdowns with the cardinals when Fitzgerald was still at Pitt.
Clemson was ranked 21st in passing and 54th in rushing? If anything they were like West Virginia. |
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03-29-2012, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Breakerboy Quan was good because he was good. Don't take him down like that. | But he was a compliment to Fitz we all know that BB |
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03-29-2012, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MoB_MoVols But he was a compliment to Fitz we all know that BB | Thats like saying Wayne was a compliment to Harrison. |
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03-29-2012, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by StlCardinals2618 Darick ran about 12 reverses his freshmen year, does that make him that type of reciever? No, it doesnt. Clemson's goal was to get sammy Watkins in open space, and that is what they did. Whether it be screens, slants, reverses, wildcats, etc. They're main focus was getting him in open space. You don't have to do that for Hunter. Hunter creates space by himself. Clemson runs a fast-paced spread offense. It is really hard to evaluate a player in that system. Meachem was in a pro-style offense. It is a big difference. You can really utilize players with Watkins skill-set in a spread.
Do you not think question won't be asked about Watkins?
How will he do in a pro-style offense?
Can he create separation by himself?
Can he be used as a number 1 reciever? | Pretty sure we want to get Hunter in open space. I watched Clemson play and they used Watkins all over the field. He can literally do it all. I watched Clemson just to see how he would score every week or what he would do. Boy is going to be crazy good this year. You've got to remember he was a Heisman candidate at WR as a freshman. That should tell you how good the kid is. |
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03-29-2012, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MoB_MoVols But he was a compliment to Fitz we all know that BB | The year before Fitz got there he had a lot of catches. He actually kept Fitz with room to operate. Teams had to honor Quan as a real threat on the other side. |
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