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[TideWarrior]

Originally Posted by The Breakerboy

TW I'm looking at your players and not your scheme on offense. Also your DBs weren't good in 2010 and they weren't that good in 2009 either(Crompton had a good day against them). And as confident as you are in your team, I think I'm just as confident in a healthy UT squad this year. I think Sunseri gives us an edge attitude wise on defense that I haven't seen around here in a while. If we're healthy I would be disappointed in not winning the East this year. I also think we're the one offense in this league that Bama's defense will have trouble matching up with. As long as Lane, Neal, Young, and Bourque give us an adequate rushing attack we'll be hell for anybody including Saban's defense. Watching the UT-Bama game last year we didn't play terrible. D.Rogers was killing your CBs but Simms is just a terrible QB. I'm too ready for this season to start up.

I am not worried about our run D and I agree with Saban here when he said this is the best DL he has ever coached. So if I am a homer for that I guess Saban is to and that coming from a man that barely says anything positive about his teams. Our DL will finally be able to get after the pass rush.

The other thing is our O will score more this year. We have one of the strongest OL in the SEC this year with what we have returing.(4 starters, plus Cyrus). As long as Lacy is 100% our RB group will be as good as LSUs last year with the 4 we have. And unlike previous years where we had only had one WR to throw to we have about 6 now. Yes it is nice to have a Jones or a Hunter to throw to, but it is alot nicer to feel confident to have 6 WRs to throw to instead of one great one that if they get hurt your passing game goes down.

Unlike 2010 we have depth and the only concern I have most UA fans for repeating this year is our schedule which includes 4 road games(LSU, Ark, UT, Mizzou). With the exception of Mizzou who I know very little about, the other 3 are very hard places to win at and all 3 should be tough games.

[TideWarrior]

Originally Posted by The Breakerboy

Well they only really lost two LBers in Upshaw and Hightower. But on the other TW you did get to play LSU twice(which is BS to me). So you already knew what you could do better on defense they second time around.

So now you are saying we did not play great D in the 1st game. I guess I am confused by a 3 FG loss in OT. But to your point so did LSU and you would think they could play better on D.

[The Breakerboy]

Originally Posted by TideWarrior

I am not worried about our run D and I agree with Saban here when he said this is the best DL he has ever coached. So if I am a homer for that I guess Saban is to and that coming from a man that barely says anything positive about his teams. Our DL will finally be able to get after the pass rush.

The other thing is our O will score more this year. We have one of the strongest OL in the SEC this year with what we have returing.(4 starters, plus Cyrus). As long as Lacy is 100% our RB group will be as good as LSUs last year with the 4 we have. And unlike previous years where we had only had one WR to throw to we have about 6 now. Yes it is nice to have a Jones or a Hunter to throw to, but it is alot nicer to feel confident to have 6 WRs to throw to instead of one great one that if they get hurt your passing game goes down.

Unlike 2010 we have depth and the only concern I have most UA fans for repeating this year is our schedule which includes 4 road games(LSU, Ark, UT, Mizzou). With the exception of Mizzou who I know very little about, the other 3 are very hard places to win at and all 3 should be tough games.

Hold on TW your RBs aren't as good as LSU's right now. I don't care if Lacy is healthy. Yeldon is good but Fowler smashed trash defenses. All the backs they have are good. They are 4-5 deep not just 3 deep. And they are adding Jeremy Hill to the mix. Now you're sipping kinda hard on your Tide kool-aid. And that trip to UT won't be fun if we're healthy and playing like we can.

[G4ID13]

Originally Posted by The Breakerboy

Well they only really lost two LBers in Upshaw and Hightower. But on the other TW you did get to play LSU twice(which is BS to me). So you already knew what you could do better on defense they second time around.

They also lost Harris. Point is they have 3 guys returning with any significant time and that is Johnson, Mosley and Depriest. We had 2 second string guys have a better year. Outside of Nico who had a better year than Herrera, a true freshmen. If Tree had not been injured for 6 games then he would have atleast finished 2nd team All SEC. He averaged 6.5 tackles a game which would have put him at 83.5 tackles on the year. Just right below Hightower and he had 4 less tackles for loss and 1 less sack after missing 6 games. He had the same number of tackles as Upshaw at 52. Yet some how in TW's mind Nico, Mosley and DePriest have proved they are better. I guess when looking through crimson glasses they might be.

[The Breakerboy]

Originally Posted by TideWarrior

So now you are saying we did not play great D in the 1st game. I guess I am confused by a 3 FG loss in OT. But to your point so did LSU and you would think they could play better on D.

No I didn't say that. And they're defense played well in the NC game. The offense left them out to dry all game and they still held you without a TD until late in the game.

[The Breakerboy]

Originally Posted by G4ID13

They also lost Harris. Point is they have 3 guys returning with any significant time and that is Johnson, Mosley and Depriest. We had 2 second string guys have a better year. Outside of Nico who had a better year than Herrera, a true freshmen. If Tree had not been injured for 6 games then he would have atleast finished 2nd team All SEC. He averaged 6.5 tackles a game which would have put him at 83.5 tackles on the year. Just right below Hightower and he had 4 less tackles for loss and 1 less sack after missing 6 games. He had the same number of tackles as Upshaw at 52. Yet some how in TW's mind Nico, Mosley and DePriest have proved they are better. I guess when looking through crimson glasses they might be.

I think TW's point is they weren't on the field long enough for a bunch of stats. There were a bunch of 3 and outs.

[TideWarrior]

Originally Posted by G4ID13

Exactly a bunch of LBers that are no longer at Bama. Our 3 offensive turnovers and allowing honey badger to kill us on special teams, lost us that game. Our defense allowed 0 first downs and like 25 yards of total offense in the first half. They allowed 237 total yards of offense for the whole game which was less than Bama's 239 in their loss to LSU.

You do realize that CJ and Nico noth started in the BCSNCG and that when CJ got hurt is was Trey that came in for him as a true freshman and played the rest of the game.

If you are comparing UGA to UA against LSU take off your homer glasses. No matter how you spin UGA got destroyed by LSU. Those yards we gave up in the loss also include the OT. In the BCS LSU gained 92 yards on us total.

We played LSU twice for a combined score of UA27-LSU9, UGA in one game lost 42-10. UA defense in 2 games gave up no TDs to LSU but UGA iun one game gave up 4 TDs to the LSU offense. No comparison there.

[TideWarrior]

Originally Posted by The Breakerboy

Hold on TW your RBs aren't as good as LSU's right now. I don't care if Lacy is healthy. Yeldon is good but Fowler smashed trash defenses. All the backs they have are good. They are 4-5 deep not just 3 deep. And they are adding Jeremy Hill to the mix. Now you're sipping kinda hard on your Tide kool-aid. And that trip to UT won't be fun if we're healthy and playing like we can.

I am talking about in overall production. I am not saying they are equal as in per player, but that UA will be able to provide a RB by committee offense this year like LSU did last year. A weakness I think UA has struggled with and why we struggled in games like USC 2 years ago with MI just returning from a knee injury and TR got hurt in that game. We have never had the quality depth we have going into this fall.

[TideWarrior]

Originally Posted by The Breakerboy

I think TW's point is they weren't on the field long enough for a bunch of stats. There were a bunch of 3 and outs.

Bingo. Our D was on the field for shorter amount of time, plus we rotated probably more LBs in games than most teams since we are so deep. And when we got up on teams or like some of the weaker teams these LBs barely played. Depth at LB is one thing UA will always have.

[The Breakerboy]

Originally Posted by TideWarrior

I am talking about in overall production. I am not saying they are equal as in per player, but that UA will be able to provide a RB by committee offense this year like LSU did last year. A weakness I think UA has struggled with and why we struggled in games like USC 2 years ago with MI just returning from a knee injury and TR got hurt in that game. We have never had the quality depth we have going into this fall.

We'll see I still don't think you're deep enough to do that on offense in the backfield. Lacy has ball security problems and Yeldon hasn't proven he can handle a full season. Fowler's size will work against him at times. And who's the fourth guy???? Also I think that teams will make AJ beat them this year. I'd really like to see what he does if he's down by 10 or more points in a game. I think he'll crack.

[G4ID13]

Ok since you like comparing stats from games as over all defense instead of individuals. How about the 302 yards rushing Bama allowed against 1AA Georgia Southern and the 59 yards less allowed by Georgia against a team that runs the same offense in GT a bcs school. Point is that you and other Bama fans are claiming you have the best LB corp in the SEC with a bunch of guys with little to no playing time. Outside of the 3 I mentioned you dont have the first LB with more than 10 tackles total on the year. We return 6guys that had starts, 1 All American and our 4th th best LBer had the exact same stats last year as the best LBer you have returning. Just like breaker boy said with you claiming to have a better RB group with 2 returning players, one of which can't stay healthy and a kid out of HS, than LSU who returns like 4-5 rbs from last year of which 3 had better years than the 2 you have returning....and I am the homer? Really? Just read what you are typing. Also while bringing up stats from last year you are comparing stats with players that are no longer on the team.

[TideWarrior]

Originally Posted by The Breakerboy

We'll see I still don't think you're deep enough to do that on offense in the backfield. Lacy has ball security problems and Yeldon hasn't proven he can handle a full season. Fowler's size will work against him at times. And who's the fourth guy???? Also I think that teams will make AJ beat them this year. I'd really like to see what he does if he's down by 10 or more points in a game. I think he'll crack.

I wll take D Hart as one of those 4 all day. He was a 5 star and Army POY. Like Yeldon he still has to prove it, but again those 4 going into the fall healthy are better than any other 4 we have had UA going into the fall under Saban. Again my opinion.

[G4ID13]

Originally Posted by TideWarrior

I wll take D Hart as one of those 4 all day. He was a 5 star and Army POY. Like Yeldon he still has to prove it, but again those 4 going into the fall healthy are better than any other 4 we have had UA going into the fall under Saban. Again my opinion.

Again a 5 star that has yet to prove anything other than he was good in HS.

[The Breakerboy]

Originally Posted by TideWarrior

I wll take D Hart as one of those 4 all day. He was a 5 star and Army POY. Like Yeldon he still has to prove it, but again those 4 going into the fall healthy are better than any other 4 we have had UA going into the fall under Saban. Again my opinion.

Okay this is your best depth but you and I both know Hart was a real 4 star back. He's good but Yeldon and Richardson were what 5 stars look like. This being your deepest year at RB still doesn't mean you can just line up and punish people. Also I personally like the trio of Ingram, Richardson, and Lacy much better than this group as far as talent is concerned.

[G4ID13]

That would be like me claiming Georgia has the best rbs in the SEC with Crowell #1 RB out of HS, All SEC freshmen of the year with Marshall and Gurley #1 and #6 RBs coming out of HS.