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06-08-2012, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kingston Vol Most believe, barring major injuries, he's gone if we don't win 8 games. Posted via VolNation Mobile | Oh man. September will be a telling month for UT! |
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06-08-2012, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by UTFanForLife If your going to troll, we have a forum just for that, its called the football forum. Keep this thread about Kamara | will do, sorry. Is the UT optimism about Kamara mainly due to Croom? Or is that just a part of it? |
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06-08-2012, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ballparkga Oh man. September will be a telling month for UT! | Yep. Gotta get a good start. The Florida game is the most important game in quite some time, imo. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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06-08-2012, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Vol Main Please tangibly improve VolNation by leaving and not coming back. I suggest that you tangibly louse up your own site with compliments about the smirking excuse for a head coach in Athens. We want him to stay there, if that tells you anything. | I asked reasonable questions (I said if y'all had a 5 win season. I did not predict that.) But nice job overreacting. I'm gonna keep it to Kamara from here on out, but wow, that was quite a reaction to a hypothetical question. |
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06-08-2012, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ballparkga will do, sorry. Is the UT optimism about Kamara mainly due to Croom? Or is that just a part of it? | I'm just giving you a hard time. |
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06-09-2012, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ballparkga will do, sorry. Is the UT optimism about Kamara mainly due to Croom? Or is that just a part of it? | Playing time opportunity, Croom, coaches. He along with Williams, Folston, Green, and maybe WIlkins are all in play for Dooley through February. |
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06-09-2012, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ballparkga Oh man. September will be a telling month for UT! | "Some" think he needs to win 8. |
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06-09-2012, 07:40 AM
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#1523 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ballparkga I asked reasonable questions (I said if y'all had a 5 win season. I did not predict that.) But nice job overreacting. I'm gonna keep it to Kamara from here on out, but wow, that was quite a reaction to a hypothetical question. | Which is more of a disappointment?
Tennessee not winning 8 or GA not winning the SEC with your schedule and talent? |
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06-09-2012, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ballparkga whatever you say bud. Not here to debate a game a few months away that I'm not overly concerned about. | I ain't your bud, chief. |
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06-09-2012, 07:41 AM
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#1525 (permalink)
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| Ga wastes more talent than anyone in the SEC. Who cares about them? |
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06-09-2012, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ballparkga I think you have the talent for a 9 win season, but if y'all have last year's leadership, it could make for a 5 or 6 win season easily. I was at the UGA game last season, y'all have a lot of talent at QB and WR. But the lack of leadership was really apparent. | It is pretty interesting that teams that aren't any good are always said to have bad leadership while teams that are loaded with experienced talent are generally praised for leadership.
A better test of leadership is coming through a season like last year and picking yourself up. I do not know if they'll do any better this year. Certainly "leadership" becomes more of a consideration if they don't considering the improved roster.
Last year was far more about a thin, young, inexperienced, underdeveloped roster that lost its two best offensive players for all or a significant portion of the year AND lost its best defensive player before the season started. These deficiencies were resolved in part by surviving the fire of last year's struggles... and time. UT returns 18 or 19 starters. They return 19 guys on O who have multiple starts and 16 on D. Most of the guys expected to contribute have now been in a college level S&C program for 2 or 3 years. They go from being the least experienced team in the SEC to being close to the most experienced.
Short answer. UT looked like an amazingly well led team vs Cincy. Everytime Cincy did something well, UT overwhelmed them with their response. The difference between that team and the one that stumbled down the stretch was Hunter mostly. When he was out there, the whole offense had more confidence. I guess you could even say that's "leadership". When he went down even the coaching staff got rattled.
And since you brought up the UGA game... you beat UT 20-12. This poorly led UT team with all the youth was in it the whole game. Your talent edge was FAR greater than 8 points. So what's wrong with YOUR leadership?
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06-09-2012, 08:10 AM
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| I hate every single uga fan on this site with a burning passion. I don't post much but these leg raising flea baskets are getting completely out of control. Stop polluting our fine Tennessee conversation with your dog breath. |
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06-09-2012, 08:13 AM
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#1528 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by sjt18 It is pretty interesting that teams that aren't any good are always said to have bad leadership while teams that are loaded with experienced talent are generally praised for leadership.
A better test of leadership is coming through a season like last year and picking yourself up. I do not know if they'll do any better this year. Certainly "leadership" becomes more of a consideration if they don't considering the improved roster.
Last year was far more about a thin, young, inexperienced, underdeveloped roster that lost its two best offensive players for all or a significant portion of the year AND lost its best defensive player before the season started. These deficiencies were resolved in part by surviving the fire of last year's struggles... and time. UT returns 18 or 19 starters. They return 19 guys on O who have multiple starts and 16 on D. Most of the guys expected to contribute have now been in a college level S&C program for 2 or 3 years. They go from being the least experienced team in the SEC to being close to the most experienced.
Short answer. UT looked like an amazingly well led team vs Cincy. Everytime Cincy did something well, UT overwhelmed them with their response.
And since you brought up the UGA game... you beat UT 20-12. This poorly led UT team with all the youth was in it the whole game. Your talent edge was FAR greater than 8 points. So what's wrong with YOUR leadership? | Ditto. Take away Murray, Tavares King, and Jarvis Jones from last years Georgia team and there might be a perceived leadership issue. |
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06-09-2012, 08:14 AM
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#1529 (permalink)
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| Oh snap, sjt18 with a backhand |
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06-09-2012, 08:15 AM
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| Leadership IMO has mre to do with experience. the more you have returning the better the leadership on the team is. UT should be fine.
And teams that do bad are not always the ones with poor leadership. UA in 2010 needed leadership on defense to replace Ro at LB, Hightower was not ready for that role and our team lacked the overall experience we needed to have a great season. Still finished 10-3 so we could still win, but we lacked the leadership from the experienced guys. Like Ingram who missed the 1st part of the season with the knee injury, Hightower who was not fully recovered from the knee as well, and Dareus who had to sit out the 1st part of the season and then was injured for the rest while he playerd.
Again IMO leadership equates to returning experience and I think UT will not have an issue in that department.
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