'12 TX S LaDarrell McNeil (TN signee)

[MZTERRY]

Originally Posted by Vols4us

Dang it - somebody get Jason's momma a job up here. Just awesome.

I do have a job at UT.... it's to keep all the parent HYPED and informed. I'll get paid for it as soon as I sign this LOI in a few weeks and drop that grown person off at UT. lol

[d3ft punk]

Originally Posted by MZTERRY

I do have a job at UT.... it's to keep all the parent HYPED and informed. I'll get paid for it as soon as I sign this LOI in a few weeks and drop that grown person off at UT. lol

Ha! You avatar’d the Rock too.

[The Breakerboy]

Originally Posted by sjt18

Six tackles vs Bama last year, 4 vs USCe, 8 vs Vandy... Six vs Cincy, 4 vs UF, 6 vs USCe before getting injured this year.

Not going to play this playground "either/or" game with you. I already said I really liked Randolph. If the two of them are the starters this fall then the prediction is "pain".

Just did there smart guy. The "funny" thing is you accusing me of having no facts. You've bitten off more than you can chew. You accuse me of not having facts then all you do is parrot something you've read from some other poster. Where are YOUR facts? So it is a "fact" just because you say so? Sorry but no. So was Brewer last year and this year as well for that matter. Again, I probably think more of Randolph than anyone here. I have said I thought he was better as a Fr than JJ was once you factor out Berry. Brewer IMO is not "better" than Randolph. That doesn't make him the dog you keep trying to say he is. The fact that you cite CB's once again calls into question your understanding of the game. Sorry. But no. When Brewer was healthy but struggling some, he STILL was miles ahead of Wilks. You just make yourself look even more foolish with that.


Ummm... nope. Reading comprehension apparently isn't a strength for you either. I said REPEATEDLY that Poole was NOT an elite talent. I said he was above average based on his '10 season. You don't run for over 1000 yds and six 100 yard games vs the SEC behind a bad OL and fit the label "average at best".

Yes. I watch. Brewer struggled some at times. But again, he was nowhere near the failure you keep trying to assert. His struggles were relative. UT's coaches expected more but he did not progress as fast as we all hoped.... he was still better than Wilks. He was still a better option than rotating Waggner back and putting someone else at CB.

You're hilarious dude. Waggner had more big hits than Brewer. The only way I know he's out there is when he gives up a play on 3rd down. You're running mouth like you did with Taurean Poole and getting shutdown again. I called him a MAC level back which is average at best. We saw an average at best back this year. Now Brewer hasn't had a positive impact on a game since the Bowl game. What else is there to see??? You bring up stats to look good on this board but everyone else can see his bad in-game play. Now go take your seat again sjt. Breakerboy 2 SJt 0. Hahahahahahaha

[The Breakerboy]

I really want this guy starting by the Florida game. Big time player we're getting. Hope he can play a Laron Landry style of ball for us.

[sjt18]

If UT is back to starting true Fr by UF this fall... it will be another long season. I'm not saying this guy can't carve out some PT. But at some point, UT needs a secondary with both the experience and talent not to get abused.

[sjt18]

Originally Posted by The Breakerboy

You're hilarious dude.

Actually I would like to apologize for the tone of my last few posts. It was not helpful to our discussion.

Waggner had more big hits than Brewer. The only way I know he's out there is when he gives up a play on 3rd down.

Weren't you one of the ones saying that Lane was SEC ready and would pass Poole?... Only to see a walk on get a shot to take the #2 job?

You're running mouth like you did with Taurean Poole and getting shutdown again. I called him a MAC level back which is average at best. We saw an average at best back this year.

You still haven't explained the '10 season or established that anyone could have performed behind the blocking UT had... because no one did including the guy you said would pass Poole without a problem.

So no, you didn't "shut me down"... not even close. UT's run game stank. NONE of the RB's were "elite" players. The blocking from the OL, TE's, and WR's flat out stank. The scheme they had decided on in August never worked and trying to transition to something different mid-year proved ineffective.

Now Brewer hasn't had a positive impact on a game since the Bowl game. What else is there to see???

Gave you direct evidence to counter this argument. I really, really can't help it that you choose to ignore blatant facts.

You bring up stats to look good on this board but everyone else can see his bad in-game play.

I can see a secondary fail. I have played enough and studied enough football to know that it sometimes isn't the guy who looks bad to people in the stands who blew their assignment.

Here is another unassailable fact for you. In spite of not playing up to hopes, Brewer was the best option when he went down with injury. The distance between him and # 2 was so great that they rolled Waggner, a natural CB, back to S.

Here are some more. He, like the rest of the young DB's is still being developed as a player... but he's big- 6'1" around 215. He's strong... and it was reported that he along with Neal and Hunter posted the best 40 times on the roster last summer.

Mistakes? Sure. But you are going back to the same old non-sense of buying the hype of HS recruits so much that you don't recognize the talent and development of existing players.

Now go take your seat again sjt. Breakerboy 2 SJt 0. Hahahahahahaha

Only you would think so... but hey if you are counting the number of bad arguments... you haven't given yourself enough "credit".

[sjt18]

FTR, just like with Poole... I will be tickled if McNeil or anyone else really does come in a passes Brewer and the other experienced guys. UT will have gotten a great player if they do. All I care about is having the best guys on the field giving UT the best chance to win every game.

However, writing a talented guy like Brewer off... is just stupid.

[Smokeytom]

SJT you definitely never argued about citing your sources in school, did you? haha

[sjt18]

Originally Posted by Smokeytom

SJT you definitely never argued about citing your sources in school, did you? haha

I always like to have the facts when anyone makes a declaration. If you want to say it is my subjective "opinion"... I won't have a problem. When you state, "This is how it is"... then I may challenge your reasoning.

[FightingScott]

Originally Posted by badkarma

Man I hope not...

Inferiority complexes are a sad thing to behold...

[Smokeytom]

Originally Posted by sjt18

I always like to have the facts when anyone makes a declaration. If you want to say it is my subjective "opinion"... I won't have a problem. When you state, "This is how it is"... then I may challenge your reasoning.

Well thats how debating/arguing points should be. I try not to talk on subjects i don't have some background knowledge on. That's just the common sense way to do it.

[sjt18]

Originally Posted by Smokeytom

Well thats how debating/arguing points should be. I try not to talk on subjects i don't have some background knowledge on. That's just the common sense way to do it.

Yeah. Too many here let emotions carry them. If they are positive then they inevitably get embarrassed or disappointed when they make rosy assumptions. If they are negative then they make rash, unfounded conclusions. Too many are willing to fill blank spaces in the "proof" with assumptions or worse their emotional reaction.

You need look no further than the number of "sky is falling" threads and posts when the DC search was on-going. I bumped my "I told you so" a couple of times.... predicted that there was a process, that the eventual guy was not necessarily going to be Shannon or Steele... that the guy might still be coaching (he was)... and that the timing of the announcement would be for max recruiting benefit. I even said the announcement would be at the end of last week before the big recruiting weekend or else during that weekend.

It isn't that I'm smarter... I just try to shelve my emotions when trying to evaluate things. Some people just can't control their emotions long enough to reason things through.

[The Breakerboy]

I'm done hi-jacking this thread with sjt. He posted stats about Brewer but didn't post TFL, forced fumbles, or INTs. He brings up Poole but Lane still looked better(wasn't hard to SEE) and showed more ability. Our secondary play wasn't good at all last season. Randolph and Waggner played the best out of the guys that are here. They'll have the best chance to start next season. Moore and Coleman will be ones to watch. Want to see if they progress any. But guys like McNeil, Gray, Bonner, and Shelton(if we get the last two guys) can push for playing time early. I personally want to see B.Moore at FS with Randolph at SS. Then I want to bring McNeil in certain nickel situations. But we'll see who does what in spring and fall camps. McNeil is an impact player and good enough to get time early as long as he learns the system.

[MikeDVol]

Don't stop, its very entertaining

[Smokeytom]

which everyone is going to be learning a new system so who knows how everything will shake up with some of the stud recruits were bringing in.