'12 JUCO WR Cordarrelle Patterson (UT signee)

[volterp]

Then why post the track times. If he ran 54 he did not run anything close to 4.2-4.5.

[volterp]

54 sec would not qualify for a county meet in Nebraska.

[thunder5]

Originally Posted by volterp

Then why post the track times. If he ran 54 he did not run anything close to 4.2-4.5.

Explosion and endurance are two differant things....that's why 100m Olympic champ Donovan Bailey was blowing 2 time world record holder and Olympic champ Michael Johnson off the track in a 150m race before Johnson pulled up lame to try to save face

[volterp]

What does that have to do with 400. Vincent Dallas ran 49.2. That is explosive 54 is sorry.

[VolStudent247]

TSSAA 2010 state meet times
Event 42 Boys 400 Meter Dash D-I A-AA
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Name Year School Finals Points
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1 Barfield, Kevin 12 Frayser 49.18 10
2 Johnson, Tony 11 Fayette-Ware 49.49 8
3 Walker, Marcus 11 Chrstn Acad-Knxv 49.68 6
4 Leverette, Jabrie 11 Tyner Academy 50.40 5
5 Loveless, Broc 12 Spring Hill 51.55 4
6 Williams, Deondrez 10 Union City 51.63 3
7 Dubois, Shane 11 Stratford 53.13 2

[VolStudent247]

Originally Posted by volterp

54 sec would not qualify for a county meet in Nebraska.

wrong

[thunder5]

Originally Posted by volterp

What does that have to do with 400. Vincent Dallas ran 49.2. That is explosive 54 is sorry.

400m is about endurance...40yds/100m is about explosion and top end speed....the ability to maintain a 90% sprint for 400m says nothing about ones explosiveness

[volterp]

Finals in PA Last Year AA AAAA 400 Meter
Womens winner was 55.6 See any 54 They must be slow in TN

NFHS Record: ! 45.25 1993 Calvin Harrison, SalNSalinasHS,CA
PIAA Record: R 46.36 1984 Mike Spangler, So Western HS 3
NFHS Hnr Rol: # 47.70
Name Year School Prelims Finals
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1 Younkin, Kyle 12 Somerset 06 48.58 48.03
2 Patton, Nicholas 10 Tyrone Area 06 49.25 48.30
3 Coles, Trenton 10 Clairton 07 48.23 48.48
4 Bales, Robert 12 BoilingSprngs 03 49.17 48.85
5 Miles, Victor 12 Sprngfld Twp 01 50.04 49.97
6 Aiken, Tyler 12 Greensburg CC 07 50.02 50.20
7 Bryan, Ozzie 12 West Catholic 12 49.46 50.70
8 Okezie, Chidi 11 New Media 12 49.83 51.00

Event 705 Boys 400 Meter Dash AAA
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NFHS Record: ! 45.25 1993 Calvin Harrison, SalNSalinasHS,CA
PIAA Record: R 46.27 1983 Clinton Davis, Steel Valley HS 7
NFHS Hnr Rol: # 47.70
Name Year School Prelims Finals
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1 Gehret, Brady 12 Altoona Area 06 48.88 46.46#
2 Gilmore, Matt 11 Cheltenham 01 48.39 47.46#
3 Thomas, Eric 12 Muhlenberg 03 48.40 48.58
4 Akers, Hansel 12 Hempfield 03 48.86 48.86
5 Bennett-Green, Brandon 12 Cheltenham 01 48.83 48.91
6 Ulatowski, Evan 12 Unionville 01 48.80 48.95
7 Brundidge, Erick 12 Northeast 12 48.90 51.06
8 Ross, Charles 12 Abington 01 48.84 52.68

[volterp]

Nonone that runs 10.8 runs 54 unless they are very out of shape.

[thunder5]

Originally Posted by volterp

Finals in PA Last Year AA AAAA 400 Meter
Womens winner was 55.6 See any 54 They must be slow in TN

NFHS Record: ! 45.25 1993 Calvin Harrison, SalNSalinasHS,CA
PIAA Record: R 46.36 1984 Mike Spangler, So Western HS 3
NFHS Hnr Rol: # 47.70
Name Year School Prelims Finals
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1 Younkin, Kyle 12 Somerset 06 48.58 48.03
2 Patton, Nicholas 10 Tyrone Area 06 49.25 48.30
3 Coles, Trenton 10 Clairton 07 48.23 48.48
4 Bales, Robert 12 BoilingSprngs 03 49.17 48.85
5 Miles, Victor 12 Sprngfld Twp 01 50.04 49.97
6 Aiken, Tyler 12 Greensburg CC 07 50.02 50.20
7 Bryan, Ozzie 12 West Catholic 12 49.46 50.70
8 Okezie, Chidi 11 New Media 12 49.83 51.00

Event 705 Boys 400 Meter Dash AAA
================================================== =======================
NFHS Record: ! 45.25 1993 Calvin Harrison, SalNSalinasHS,CA
PIAA Record: R 46.27 1983 Clinton Davis, Steel Valley HS 7
NFHS Hnr Rol: # 47.70
Name Year School Prelims Finals
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1 Gehret, Brady 12 Altoona Area 06 48.88 46.46#
2 Gilmore, Matt 11 Cheltenham 01 48.39 47.46#
3 Thomas, Eric 12 Muhlenberg 03 48.40 48.58
4 Akers, Hansel 12 Hempfield 03 48.86 48.86
5 Bennett-Green, Brandon 12 Cheltenham 01 48.83 48.91
6 Ulatowski, Evan 12 Unionville 01 48.80 48.95
7 Brundidge, Erick 12 Northeast 12 48.90 51.06
8 Ross, Charles 12 Abington 01 48.84 52.68

Doesn't change the fact that 400m is an endurance sprint...if it were an all out(explosive) sprint like the 100m then the world record would be sub-40 seconds (i.e. roughly the 100m record x 4)

[volterp]

Dude the he is 1 second better than the womens winner in PA last year. One of those times is wrong. Every sprinter runs 400s all the time. Lets just hope that time is wrong.

[volterp]

The other thing is: Are you accepting the guy ran track and had no endurance?

[bowlinggreenvol]

Your logic that he can't run a 4.5 forty because he ran a 54 sec 400 is extremely flawed. If there is a direct correlation from one distance to the next, like you seem to suggest, then he is probably running a 3:48 mile. Right? Our 100-200 meter guy in HS was the worst leg on our 4x400 relay team. Yes he ran it, didn't mean he was good at it, nor slow in his other events.
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[volterp]

I ran track. I am around track programs all the time. I go to a lot of meets. If you are fast you are fast. There are 3 sprints 100, 200, 400. Each one requires slightly different skill set. Some guys lose in the 100 and win in the 400. That does not take any brains to admit that. But never and I repeat never does a guy have that much disparity. Anyone running a 10.8 could jog a 54. Even if he were a blazing 100 meter guy which they say he is and the 400 was not his event 54 is a very poor effort or performance. Maybe he did not like 400 and mailed it in. But if that is the case he is not a competitior and I do not wnat him on my team. I hope that time is wrong.

[HialeahGator]

picked up an UF offered this week.