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Old 02-26-2012, 02:56 PM   #166 (permalink)
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From everything I've read (admittedly little), it seems like they need academics to be at a certain point for a school to be considered. I don't think they're looking for the best football program that meets their minimum standards for academics, not the best academic program that meets their minimum standard for football. I can't imagine you would jeopardize your son's NFL draft status by sending him to a program that doesn't maximize his talent just because they have slightly better academics than a program that will maximize his potential.
Exactly! Especially given the fact that the percentage of players that make the nfl is SO high! Why would anybody want a good contingency plan?

And, given the fact that the leagues scouting and combine process is so terrible, talented players from smaller programs NEVER get found.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:42 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Just touchdown in Orlando UT visit went better than expected . Academic support and facilities are much better than we thought
Thanks all! Na, I don't have a twitter account but thanks for keeping me informed. UT is making a huge push to be a top 25 public university. Obviously, it will never be on Vanderbilt's level (depending upon what he wishes to major in), but there are many strides being taken at this university to improve its academics. One thing for sure, with all the support they have here (especially with Thornton center), no athlete should ever fail.
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Exactly! Especially given the fact that the percentage of players that make the nfl is SO high! Why would anybody want a good contingency plan?

And, given the fact that the leagues scouting and combine process is so terrible, talented players from smaller programs NEVER get found.
Damn. That was a strong post.
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It's too early to tell if any current commits will still be committed next Feb. I think for Vandy, in order to keep their commits, they have to show some progress. Same goes for UT.
If Vandy has a great year Franklin is gone. I had the unfortunate pleasure today to sit in front of a large group of Vandy fans. They saw my UA hat and starting talking football. They believe that if Franklin will stay around that in 3 years they can compete for the East. Sorry but it really hard no to laugh and roll down the bleachers. But the one thing they did say and I will agree with them, if Franklin does produce on the field combined with the way he seems to recruit, they will be lucky to have him in two years. Most of these Vandy fans were convinced this is a stop over for a bigger gig.
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Gotta love Franklin's bs.
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Exactly! Especially given the fact that the percentage of players that make the nfl is SO high! Why would anybody want a good contingency plan?

And, given the fact that the leagues scouting and combine process is so terrible, talented players from smaller programs NEVER get found.
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:59 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Because an education is more important than football. Going to Vandy didnt hurt Cutler

If you're great at football, it doesnt matter what school you attend.
Totally disagree. Level of competition and coaches ability to develop you means the difference between 1st and 4th round in the draft. No HS kid is ready for the NFL, so college choice does matter.
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If Vandy has a great year Franklin is gone. I had the unfortunate pleasure today to sit in front of a large group of Vandy fans. They saw my UA hat and starting talking football. They believe that if Franklin will stay around that in 3 years they can compete for the East. Sorry but it really hard no to laugh and roll down the bleachers. But the one thing they did say and I will agree with them, if Franklin does produce on the field combined with the way he seems to recruit, they will be lucky to have him in two years. Most of these Vandy fans were convinced this is a stop over for a bigger gig.
Gotta love Vandy fans. He's won 6 games and he's the hottest coach in the ncaa.
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Because an education is more important than football. Going to Vandy didnt hurt Cutler

If you're great at football, it doesnt matter what school you attend.
100% wrong. It's all about development in football. Football is not the same as basketball in regards to being ready at age 18 to play in the pro's from both a physical stand point and mental.
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yep. This is bigger than football. He could go to ND,SC or Standford to get the best of both worlds but Vandy gives him the degree, SEC and a staff that his family loves. I know it hard to understand but you have to know the back story with his father. One of the best football players ever in Fla but didn't have the grades to get into SEC schools endup at Univ of Tampa. Said that he'll never allow his son to put football over academics.
I can understand that
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100% wrong. It's all about development in football. Football is not the same as basketball in regards to being ready at age 18 to play in the pro's from both a physical stand point and mental.
So what I'm getting out of this is that Randy Moss, Joe Flacco, Victor Cruz, James Harrison, Antonio Gates, Miles Austin, etc. should not be in the nfl because of their school they attended, and not because they are great at football. Strong arguement
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So what I'm getting out of this is that Randy Moss, Joe Flacco, Victor Cruz, James Harrison, Antonio Gates, Miles Austin, etc. should not be in the nfl because of their school they attended, and not because they are great at football. Strong arguement
Gates didn't even play college football
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If Vandy has a great year Franklin is gone. I had the unfortunate pleasure today to sit in front of a large group of Vandy fans. They saw my UA hat and starting talking football. They believe that if Franklin will stay around that in 3 years they can compete for the East. Sorry but it really hard no to laugh and roll down the bleachers. But the one thing they did say and I will agree with them, if Franklin does produce on the field combined with the way he seems to recruit, they will be lucky to have him in two years. Most of these Vandy fans were convinced this is a stop over for a bigger gig.
Sadly this is not the general feel of their fan base.
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So what I'm getting out of this is that Randy Moss, Joe Flacco, Victor Cruz, James Harrison, Antonio Gates, Miles Austin, etc. should not be in the nfl because of their school they attended, and not because they are great at football. Strong arguement
Did I ever say it mattered on school? It's matters in development. There are great coaches all over the country at every level of football. But that doesn't mean a kid can go anywhere and still succeed. Don't rip my argument when you don't even comprehend it.
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Did I ever say it mattered on school? It's matters in development. There are great coaches all over the country at every level of football. But that doesn't mean a kid can go anywhere and still succeed. Don't rip my argument when you don't even comprehend it.
He said if you're great at football then it doesn't matter what school you attend. You replied with 100% wrong. Your rebuttal sir.
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