If I hear one more comment about stars!!!!

[LANEDALTON]

Does everyone actually believe that if a player doesnt have 5 stars he isnt any good? Its getting really old. Florida and Alabama get tons of stars because the places they recruit get alot of media attention.

Tennessee does not have this priviledge. Quit expecting them to.

I would love a team full of great players that were underrated coming out of high school because they didnt play against teams with 4 and 5 star players according to the recruiting agencies every week.

We sold out once for the stars and it just amazes how quickly people would do it again. Dont forget how it felt to know we were nothing but a stepping stone.

Let Dooley do it right, and quit saying how you would do it. If we was as good as we thought we were we would be coaching. Instead I'm in the Army, some of you all are construction workers, lawyers, doctors, and factory workers.

I wouldnt want Dooley to tell me how to lead my guys, much like I'm sure you wouldnt want him to tell you how to do your jobs.

Layoff and let them do thier job.

[usnavy1959]

Well said,I agree 100%.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by LANEDALTON

Does everyone actually believe that if a player doesnt have 5 stars he isnt any good? Its getting really old. Florida and Alabama get tons of stars because the places they recruit get alot of media attention.

Tennessee does not have this priviledge. Quit expecting them to.

I would love a team full of great players that were underrated coming out of high school because they didnt play against teams with 4 and 5 star players according to the recruiting agencies every week.

We sold out once for the stars and it just amazes how quickly people would do it again. Dont forget how it felt to know we were nothing but a stepping stone.

Let Dooley do it right, and quit saying how you would do it. If we was as good as we thought we were we would be coaching. Instead I'm in the Army, some of you all are construction workers, lawyers, doctors, and factory workers.

I wouldnt want Dooley to tell me how to lead my guys, much like I'm sure you wouldnt want him to tell you how to do your jobs.

Layoff and let them do thier job.

Yeah, Alabama's location is getting them those high profile recruits. Gainesville sucks, too. They got coaches to get great players, and now they win championships. Hopefully we'll catch on sooner or later.

[Big Orange Bo]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Yeah, Alabama's location is getting them those high profile recruits. Gainesville sucks, too. They got coaches to get great players, and now they win championships. Hopefully we'll catch on sooner or later.

+1

[cmac]

Agreed good sir. I am a die hard UT football fan my uncle played there, I went to school there, although I do side with the Dukies in basketball (grew up watching them with my papaw cause thats where he went) I have to admit I joined this website to talk about how crazy some of these idiots are. Everyone on here thinks they could coach better than dooley and its crazy, and for some reason people think our basketball team which was very solid at best were guaranteed to beat duke in the title game yet they have no faith in our moneymaker of a football team. yea we have sucked at times but think about last year and we are an average offense away from going to a BCS game. Our defense was amazing the past two years and I am expecting more of the same from this group and I would be willing to throw bray in the game before crompton tomorrow. in five years these posters will be eating their words on dooley and i say lets go win 8 or 9 games this year and make things interesting, cause this team is put together better than this years basketball team and you all loved them.

[LANEDALTON]

I said where they recruit. Meyer has Florida (the whole state). Saban has Alabama (the whole state). 2 states that produce damn good talent year in and year out. We have oncies and twosies. We have to pluck from Georgia and and other surrounding states. It isnt as easy. In doing so they have to find more under the radar guys.

[tvolsfan]

Alabama's talent is okay, not great. Saban isn't winning because his ability to recruit Alabama. Florida has a great state, but they share it with schools in locations that don't suck. They have an advantage, but not enough that we have to settle for mediocre players. We've been in an awful situation and we've still pulled in back to back top 10 classes. A really good recruiter can pull in the best. That's what we need to keep up with these teams. We're not winning anything with 3 star players.

[Volman93]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Alabama's talent is okay, not great. Saban isn't winning because his ability to recruit Alabama. Florida has a great state, but they share it with schools in locations that don't suck. They have an advantage, but not enough that we have to settle for mediocre players. We've been in an awful situation and we've still pulled in back to back top 10 classes. A really good recruiter can pull in the best. That's what we need to keep up with these teams. We're not winning anything with 3 star players.

We're not winning anything right now but arguments amongst ourselves.

[LANEDALTON]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Alabama's talent is okay, not great. Saban isn't winning because his ability to recruit Alabama. Florida has a great state, but they share it with schools in locations that don't suck. They have an advantage, but not enough that we have to settle for mediocre players. We've been in an awful situation and we've still pulled in back to back top 10 classes. A really good recruiter can pull in the best. That's what we need to keep up with these teams. We're not winning anything with 3 star players.

Boise State, TCU, and Utah are winning with 3 stars. Why? Because, they are not really 3 stars. That is the sign of a good recruiter. Someone who sees a diamond in the rough. Great coaches can coach them up to the level. Before I hear the MWC or WAC critcism, remember how these 3 teams fair when they play someone from a power conference. They normally win. Just let them coach and then if we suck in a couple years your point is valid. If they are competing I would hope you could man up and admit your wrong.

[GahLee]

Originally Posted by LANEDALTON

Boise State, TCU, and Utah are winning with 3 stars. Why? Because, they are not really 3 stars. That is the sign of a good recruiter. Someone who sees a diamond in the rough. Great coaches can coach them up to the level. Before I hear the MWC or WAC critcism, remember how these 3 teams fair when they play someone from a power conference. They normally win. Just let them coach and then if we suck in a couple years your point is valid. If they are competing I would hope you could man up and admit your wrong.

They also have better coaches and play in a weak conference.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by LANEDALTON

Boise State, TCU, and Utah are winning with 3 stars. Why? Because, they are not really 3 stars. That is the sign of a good recruiter. Someone who sees a diamond in the rough. Great coaches can coach them up to the level. Before I hear the MWC or WAC critcism, remember how these 3 teams fair when they play someone from a power conference. They normally win. Just let them coach and then if we suck in a couple years your point is valid. If they are competing I would hope you could man up and admit your wrong.

That's complete crap. Mid Majors are always used as an argument for star power. I don't believe for a minute they have all the great evaluators or great developers of talent. That's simply garbage.They're good, but there's no way that those 80th ranked recruiting classes are actually as good as the top 5 classes Bama and UF pull in, and there's no way Chris Petersen is better at developing talent than Nick Saban. The mid majors, esepcially Boise, make their living by beating up on their conference, and then pulling an upset on a team that is completely unmotivated to play them. Switch their schedule with UT's, and they lose, on average, 3 game a year, minimum.

[LANEDALTON]

Originally Posted by GahLee

They also have better coaches and play in a weak conference.

You dont know they have better coaches. In fact Wilcox is from Boise and get ready to see what you saw in the bowl game versus TCU.

Weak conference or not they normally beat the teams from power conferences.

[g8terh8ter_eric]

[LANEDALTON]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

That's complete crap. Mid Majors are always used as an argument for star power. I don't believe for a minute they have all the great evaluators or great developers of talent. That's simply garbage.They're good, but there's no way that those 80th ranked recruiting classes are actually as good as the top 5 classes Bama and UF pull in, and there's no way Chris Petersen is better at developing talent than Nick Saban. The mid majors, esepcially Boise, make their living by beating up on their conference, and then pulling an upset on a team that is completely unmotivated to play them. Switch their schedule with UT's, and they lose, on average, 3 game a year, minimum.

3 games a year is better than what we have been losing.

[KnoxVegas]

This statistic should completely end this topic.........

Rank 1 USC 73.40% of 4/5*s Conf. Champ. 04, 05, 06, 07, 08 NC 2003-2004

Rank 2 Texas 67.70%4/5*s Conf. Champ 05, 09 NC 2005

Rank 3 Florida 63.81% of 4/5*s Conf. Champ 06, 08 NC 2006, 2008

Rank 4 LSU 58.74%of 4/5*s NC 2003 & 2007



Ranking is based on % of 4/5 stars....

Since rivals initial rankings in 2002....its easy to see where talent gets you...does this mean that 3* players end up riding the bench? No....but you have to string top notch talent together in consecutive classes

Alabama is the only NC team missing from the top...but they would be there if this wasn't an avg. since 2002...

check it all at Larry's Locker....BCS 4 & 5 Star Breakdowns