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Old 11-30-2009, 11:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Kiffin Did Good With What He Had

2005:
Wes Brown-4*
Jeff Cottam-3*
Jon Crompton-4*
Montario Hardesty-4*
Marsalous Johnson-3*(rarely played)
Andre Mathis-4*(rarely played)
Rico McCoy-4*
Josh McNeil-4*(didn't play; injured)
Vlad Richard-3*
Chris Scott-4*
Dan Williams-3*

2006:
Chad Cunningham-2*
Quinton Hancock-3*
Daniel Lincoln-2*
Jaques McClendon-4*
Chase Nelson-3*(rarely played)
Stephaun Raines-2*
Cody Pope-3*(rarely played)
Nick Stephens-3*(rarely played)
Luke Stocker-3*
Victor Thomas-3*(rarely played)
Lamarcus Thompson-3*
Gerald Williams-3*

2007:
Anthony Anderson-3*
Eric Berry-5*
William Brimfield-3*(rarely played)
Todd Campbell-3*(rarely played if at all)
Kevin Cooper-3*
Chris Donald-5*(rarely played)
Art Evans-3*
CJ Fleming-3*
Savion Frazier-3*
Gerald Jones-4*
Ben Martin 5*
Denarius Moore-3*
Dennis Rogan-3*
Darryl Vereen-3*(rarely played)
Brent Vinson-5*(rarely played)
Chris Walker-4*

2008:
Carson Anderson-2*(rarely played if at all)
Ben Bartholomew-3*(rarely played)
Willie Bohannon-3*
Aaron Douglas-4*
Stephen Fowlkes-3*
Montori Hughes-2*
Austin Johnson-3*
Herman Lathers-3*
Tauren Poole-3*(rarely played)
Prentiss Waggner-3*(rarely played)
Marlon Walls-4*
Rod Wilks-3*(rarely played)

2009:
Jerod Askew-4*(redshirted)
Bryce Brown-5*
Eric Gordon-4*(redshirted)
Daniel Hood-3*(redshirted)
Janzen Jackson-5*
Arthur Jeffery-3*(redshirted)
Greg King-3*
Nigel Mitchell-Thornton-3*
Darren Myles-4*
Robert Nelson-3*(redshirted)
David Oku-4*
Nyshier Oliver-3*(rarely played if at all)
Kevin Revis-3*(redshirted)
Zach Rogers-3*
JerQuari Schofield-4*(redshirted)
Marsalis Teague-4*
Toney Williams-3*(redshirted)

5* that didn't/rarely played-2
4* that didn't/rarely played-4
3* that didn't/rarely played-16
2* that didn't/rarely played-2

5* that contributed significantly-4
4* that contributed significantly-12
3* that contributed significantly-24
2* that contributed significantly-3

Out of the 6 5*'s Kiffin recruited 2 of them. 2 of Fulmers' rarely played.

Out of 16 4*'s Kiffin recruited 6 of them. 3 of Kiffin's recruits redshirted. 1 of Fulmer's rarely played.

Out of 40 3*'s Kiffin recruited 9 of them. 5 of them redshirted. That means Fulmer recruited 31 of them. 21 out of that 31 played significantly this season.

Out of 3 2*'s Kiffin recruited 0. 2 of those are kickers. Our ST's sucked this year. 1 of them is supposedly going to end up pretty good.

So basically, Fulmer left us with a few good plays and the rest mediocre. To all of those people who will say that some 3*'s end up better. Well yeah, there is a whole lot more 3*'s to end up being better than there are 4*'s. There are only 250 players a year that are 4-5*'s. There are probably more than 500 (guess, maybe more) 3*'s.

So with this information it will prove to all of the Fulmerites that Fulmer really did leave the cupboard pretty bare and that Kiffin did a fantastic job with what he had.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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slow day at the office bud??
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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That 2008 class is what completely wasted our depth. That class is ridiculous.

Great breakdown, thanks.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
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.thats exactly what i was thinking.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Crompton was a 5 star wasn't he?
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:47 AM   #7 (permalink)
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haha was just kidding with ya!
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:48 AM   #8 (permalink)
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2005:
Wes Brown-4*
Jeff Cottam-3*
Jon Crompton-4*
Montario Hardesty-4*
Marsalous Johnson-3*(rarely played)
Andre Mathis-4*(rarely played)
Rico McCoy-4*
Josh McNeil-4*(didn't play; injured)
Vlad Richard-3*
Chris Scott-4*
Dan Williams-3*

2006:
Chad Cunningham-2*
Quinton Hancock-3*
Daniel Lincoln-2*
Jaques McClendon-4*
Chase Nelson-3*(rarely played)
Stephaun Raines-2*
Cody Pope-3*(rarely played)
Nick Stephens-3*(rarely played)
Luke Stocker-3*
Victor Thomas-3*(rarely played)
Lamarcus Thompson-3*
Gerald Williams-3*

2007:
Anthony Anderson-3*
Eric Berry-5*
William Brimfield-3*(rarely played)
Todd Campbell-3*(rarely played if at all)
Kevin Cooper-3*
Chris Donald-5*(rarely played)
Art Evans-3*
CJ Fleming-3*
Savion Frazier-3*
Gerald Jones-4*
Ben Martin 5*
Denarius Moore-3*
Dennis Rogan-3*
Darryl Vereen-3*(rarely played)
Brent Vinson-5*(rarely played)
Chris Walker-4*

2008:
Carson Anderson-2*(rarely played if at all)
Ben Bartholomew-3*(rarely played)
Willie Bohannon-3*
Aaron Douglas-4*
Stephen Fowlkes-3*
Montori Hughes-2*
Austin Johnson-3*
Herman Lathers-3*
Tauren Poole-3*(rarely played)
Prentiss Waggner-3*(rarely played)
Marlon Walls-4*
Rod Wilks-3*(rarely played)

2009:
Jerod Askew-4*(redshirted)
Bryce Brown-5*
Eric Gordon-4*(redshirted)
Daniel Hood-3*(redshirted)
Janzen Jackson-5*
Arthur Jeffery-3*(redshirted)
Greg King-3*
Nigel Mitchell-Thornton-3*
Darren Myles-4*
Robert Nelson-3*(redshirted)
David Oku-4*
Nyshier Oliver-3*(rarely played if at all)
Kevin Revis-3*(redshirted)
Zach Rogers-3*
JerQuari Schofield-4*(redshirted)
Marsalis Teague-4*
Toney Williams-3*(redshirted)

5* that didn't/rarely played-2
4* that didn't/rarely played-4
3* that didn't/rarely played-16
2* that didn't/rarely played-2

5* that contributed significantly-4
4* that contributed significantly-12
3* that contributed significantly-24
2* that contributed significantly-3

Out of the 6 5*'s Kiffin recruited 2 of them. 2 of Fulmers' rarely played.

Out of 16 4*'s Kiffin recruited 6 of them. 3 of Kiffin's recruits redshirted. 1 of Fulmer's rarely played.

Out of 40 3*'s Kiffin recruited 9 of them. 5 of them redshirted. That means Fulmer recruited 31 of them. 21 out of that 31 played significantly this season.

Out of 3 2*'s Kiffin recruited 0. 2 of those are kickers. Our ST's sucked this year. 1 of them is supposedly going to end up pretty good.

So basically, Fulmer left us with a few good plays and the rest mediocre. To all of those people who will say that some 3*'s end up better. Well yeah, there is a whole lot more 3*'s to end up being better than there are 4*'s. There are only 250 players a year that are 4-5*'s. There are probably more than 500 (guess, maybe more) 3*'s.

So with this information it will prove to all of the Fulmerites that Fulmer really did leave the cupboard pretty bare and that Kiffin did a fantastic job with what he had.
Good post. I was wondering all this myself, but wasn't bored enough to post it lol....Just goes to show what already knew about the shape Phil left us in
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:50 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Don't forget the contributions the walk-ons had on our team, the Sullins twins, Nick Revez, Shane Revez the new FG kicker Mathis.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:50 AM   #10 (permalink)
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man 06 and 08 were horrendous, and maybe two of all the 5 stars recruited before kiffin actually have played. Havent had a real class in a long long time, all of our depth comes from the 07 and the latest Kiffin recruited 09 classes. I didn't realize how bad those classes were. wow.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It is amazing what a coaching staff can do with players....
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It is amazing what a coaching staff can do with players....
Haha turns out coaching does matter.
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Crompton was a 5 star wasn't he?
Nope he was a 4* but pretty high up as far as QB goes in that class.
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yeah, I agree. I think Kiffin did well with what he had. He got as many games out of these guys as he could. Some might say it could have been better, but it could have been worse. I mean did anyone think after the Auburn game that we would win 7 games? So, let's sit back and wait for the bowl game. Props to the coaches for figuring out how to use the talent we have.
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:14 PM   #15 (permalink)
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makes me pretty pumped up for what we can do with this "depth" the coaches speak of
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