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Old 09-14-2009, 09:17 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:20 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Crompton is a head case, no doubt. The only thing I can equate it too is a golfer who stands on the tee, sees a whole lot of trouble left and tells himself over and over again, "don't go left, don't go left, don't go left". What does he do... goes left just about every time.

Crompton the same way. He is concentratiting on what he shouldn't do as opposed to making the play. Every time I see him drop back I swear I can see his a*****e knitting sweaters. "Please don't throw a pick, please don't throw a pick, please don't throw a pick." Oh no, a pick... and then it gets worse from there.

Dude needs a shrink.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:32 AM   #18 (permalink)
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My take on Crompton:

He has all the tools you need in a QB save two very important skills that cannot be taught. The first is he is unable to go through progressions and scan the entire field. He is one of those guys that either reads to the left or to the right, if he has to come back to the opposite side of the field he has problems. This by itself isn't a QB killer although it does limit what they can do.

The second and most important problem with Crompton is he isn't a natural leader, if he makes a bad throw and gives it up to the defense he isn't one of those guys who rallies his receivers and wills his team back. Instead he hangs his head and withdraws into his own head.

The O-line is a fairly good at run blocking. They are pretty bad at pass blocking though and this compounded with our QB play in Crompton is a recipe for disaster. Our defense is the real deal, it seems as though most of the defense has taken on an Eric Berry like mentality, their nastiness was pretty evident on the field this past Saturday. They will keep us in some ball games this year, what makes it so sad was they kept this game from getting much uglier than it could have.

I am just hoping we can keep it together and go 6-6 this year. We need some big uglies on the O-line badly, IMO that is where the biggest emphasis on recruiting should be at this point as far as our needs for next year go. If we have them we should be able to coach up a decent QB to win some games for us.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:33 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Cromp could easily lose his job on Sat. Another 3 pick game with no TDs will do that. I think Stephens will be starting against Ohio to get him ready for the rest of the year. J.A.T
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My problem with Crompton is that he does not demonstrate any leadership abilities. His post game comments were appalling. He does not accept responsibility for his bad play. I despise Tim Tebow, but it would be nice to see his passion and leadership in Crompton. The guy looks clueless out there. He is still starring down receivers. Cutcliffe tried to teach him not to do that several years ago but he still does it. The UCLA defenders even said that was the reason they picked off so many passes. Let's not forget he threw one more pic that was brought back because of a penalty and threw one in the end zone that a defender dropped. He does not have the ability to read defenses and can only complete short passes where it is a 3 step drop and throw. If he has to think, he makes mistakes. Stephens can't be any worse than Crompton.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:42 AM   #21 (permalink)
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If you want an understanding of how incrompitent or clueless he really is....here's a bit from the Chattanooga paper.......

Senior quarterback Jonathan Crompton -- whose miserable Saturday won't soon be forgotten -- said the team would "be back on the practice field (today) and ready to go forward."

Crompton steadfastly maintained that any disappointing thoughts from Saturday, like every instance last season, were gone the second he stepped off the field.

Asked just after Saturday's game if he'd already moved on, Crompton said, "Oh, yeah."

"There's nothing we can do about it now," Crompton continued. "This is over. I'm going to come back up here after I eat with my family, and I'll watch myself, correct the film and go from there."

Crompton claimed to see finger-pointing, but not the bad kind.

"A lot of guys were kind of pointing fingers at themselves," he said. "In my opinion, that's how champions are born -- they critique themselves and say, 'I could have done this better,' or, 'I could have done that better.'

"But after (Kiffin) said that, guys really kind of got a gut-check and said, 'You know what? This happened, but we've got to go on ... And I honestly think our guys will do a good job of that. A lot guys will go home and just kind of sit on it and think about it and go from there. Tomorrow's a whole new day. That's the good thing about it. We always have another day where we can come back."


What? What kind of suped up fairy dust is this kid hitting? OMG! Really Crompton? Really?
I understand the satisfaction that we would get if he came out and said "OMG, I really freakin' suck and I shouldn't see the football field," but that isn't what needs to happen. We repeatedly talk about how he needs to have a short memory with his mistakes so he can bounce back from adversity (which will happen to every QB) rather than letting a few bad throws snowball into the meltdown that happened saturday, but then we critique the guy for doing his best to try to put it behind him before the next game? Not seeing the hypocracy here? Either let the guy wallow in his failure and expect it to continue, or allow him to start trying to put this stuff behind him so he can focus on what he needs to do.

As an aside, I just don't think last year is out of his head yet. Kiffin is trying to get his confidence back by showing Crompton that he has faith in him. When our fans boo the guy during the game, send him death threats (how freakin' ridiculous), and say he should never see an SEC football field, do you think this helps or hurts what Kiffin is trying to accomplish with Crompton's confidence?
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I agree that Crompton has all the physical tools, but lacks something between the ears. Not that the kid is dumb, but maybe lacks focus. Get the kid to a sports psychologist ASAP or a hypnotist.
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The Wizard of Oz made it work for the Scarecrow. Perhaps Crompton needs to make a trip down the yellow brick road as well.
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My take on Crompton:

He has all the tools you need in a QB save two very important skills that cannot be taught. The first is he is unable to go through progressions and scan the entire field. He is one of those guys that either reads to the left or to the right, if he has to come back to the opposite side of the field he has problems. This by itself isn't a QB killer although it does limit what they can do.

The second and most important problem with Crompton is he isn't a natural leader, if he makes a bad throw and gives it up to the defense he isn't one of those guys who rallies his receivers and wills his team back. Instead he hangs his head and withdraws into his own head.

The O-line is a fairly good at run blocking. They are pretty bad at pass blocking though and this compounded with our QB play in Crompton is a recipe for disaster. Our defense is the real deal, it seems as though most of the defense has taken on an Eric Berry like mentality, their nastiness was pretty evident on the field this past Saturday. They will keep us in some ball games this year, what makes it so sad was they kept this game from getting much uglier than it could have.

I am just hoping we can keep it together and go 6-6 this year. We need some big uglies on the O-line badly, IMO that is where the biggest emphasis on recruiting should be at this point as far as our needs for next year go. If we have them we should be able to coach up a decent QB to win some games for us.
Crompton's main problem is that when the pressure is on him, there is a disconnect...his mind slips into panic mode. Basically what any defense tries to do....rattle a QB.
Even Peyton could be rattled and frustrated. It took complex, aggressive defenses to do it, but he spent alot of time as a student of football to overcome that. that's why he's exceptional in the pros. He's been studying defenses so much and worked with his receivers to perfect their timing and signals to each other.

He's able to think on the fly, and that's what I think Crompton is unable to do. I think Cutcliffe bailing as soon as the 1st HC job came around really hurt the program. I'm definitely a Fulmerite, but Cutcliffe should've stayed until he got an offer from a more promising team...not one that will never be able to come out of the doldrums. He broke the continuity of this program....again, and as a result, this program is where it is. There was even talk that Pryor was prepared to commit here if Cutcliffe was still the OC.

He'll get his come-upance soon enough as Duke will remain in the tank. I still don't believe he's HC material. He is a good OC, and that's it...similar to Monte as a DC.
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ya 6-6 would be nice at this point. Get in a bowl.
Yeah, a bowl!!!!!! I wanna go somewhere, spend money, so I can watch JC play some more. Sorta a tribute to his last game?
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Cromp could easily lose his job on Sat. Another 3 pick game with no TDs will do that. I think Stephens will be starting against Ohio to get him ready for the rest of the year. J.A.T
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I understand the satisfaction that we would get if he came out and said "OMG, I really freakin' suck and I shouldn't see the football field," but that isn't what needs to happen. We repeatedly talk about how he needs to have a short memory with his mistakes so he can bounce back from adversity (which will happen to every QB) rather than letting a few bad throws snowball into the meltdown that happened saturday, but then we critique the guy for doing his best to try to put it behind him before the next game? Not seeing the hypocracy here? Either let the guy wallow in his failure and expect it to continue, or allow him to start trying to put this stuff behind him so he can focus on what he needs to do.

As an aside, I just don't think last year is out of his head yet. Kiffin is trying to get his confidence back by showing Crompton that he has faith in him. When our fans boo the guy during the game, send him death threats (how freakin' ridiculous), and say he should never see an SEC football field, do you think this helps or hurts what Kiffin is trying to accomplish with Crompton's confidence?
Paul I agree with what you have posted....however time is running out for him to "bounce back" and put it behind him.
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:17 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I think he lets his emotions get the best of him. His overthrows I think are from his adrenaline playing in front of 100k fans, it affects his decision making too. Some people can't keep a cool head under pressure.

For a 5th year senior, it's amazing he still looks like a true freshmen.

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Not sure if this is in another thread. Did you hear Kiffin talk about guys who "go out and party or eat with their faimilies" (something close to this) after the game are not guys that we want? He basically said if you don't go sulk and think about this loss, then you aren't what we want! And then I read Crompton's comment about going to eat with his family after the game and forgetting about it and THAT's what builds champions? Maybe Kiffin heard this and sent a clear message and just maybe we'll see Stephens quickly on Saturday if things go bad. I think it's a bad spot to put Stephens in, but any competitor wants their shot, no matter what the circumstances are.
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