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Old 08-18-2009, 01:03 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Kiffin said that he would stick with the starting QB for the season. There's a reason that these guys were so bad last year and it wasn't necessarily the offensive scheme either. These guys were terrified that if they didn't do well they would be yanked one for the other. It's not happening this year because unless they understand how to overcome adversity, they will never amount to anything as a QB.
Seriously? That's not my take on what CLK will do...or what any coach would do.
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Old 08-18-2009, 01:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Was there ever a reason for this guy to write this article? He uses alot of the words "may", "looks like", "could", etc. Things must be really slow at his job for him to state the obvious and pass it off as "work". Good job Low you really have the scoop on this one.
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Old 08-18-2009, 01:07 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I think Jon starts and is the starter throughout, but Nick gets some time here and there depending on the game and score.
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Old 08-18-2009, 01:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Kiffin never said he would stick with a QB for the season. He said that he would like to have one guy take hold of the job and run with it without having to look over his shoulder if he messes up.

I am sure Kiffin is more than willing to replace a QB who can't get the job done hopefully sooner than it took Fulmer last year to make that decision.
Crompton will start this entire season to give him the best shot at figuring out how to deal with adversity. There's no way that Crompton gets yanked after 2-3 games and Stephens comes in and then if Stephens sucks gets yanked in favor of Crompton again. Some people seem to have bad short term memory, because that's exactly what happened last year give or take a few games to do it.
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Seriously? That's not my take on what CLK will do...or what any coach would do.
That's my take. Playing musical QB's divides the team, period.
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He would probably give him the entire 4th quarter if we are up. There isn't going to be switching of the QB unless the game is well in hand (up 28+). So we may see him earlier than that.
Or Crompton plays so bad he has too.
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Kiffin said that he would stick with the starting QB for the season. There's a reason that these guys were so bad last year and it wasn't necessarily the offensive scheme either. These guys were terrified that if they didn't do well they would be yanked one for the other. It's not happening this year because unless they understand how to overcome adversity, they will never amount to anything as a QB.
Kiffin never said he was sticking with one QB for the season. Here is what he said.

"Great offenses have a rhythm about them. There's a rhythm to the game, just like there's a rhythm to play-calling. If you switch quarterbacks, the cadence is different. The huddle is different. You never create a real rhythm, and you don't get to feel that quarterback."

"I would never alternate quarterbacks."

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I still think he was just saying he was against spurier style shuffling of QB's in and out on different series during a single game. People read too much into this quote.

If the starter plays bad, CLK will pull him in favor of the back up.
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Or Crompton plays so bad he has too.
The thing is, what constitutes playing bad?? Everyone defines that differently, and honestly I think the CLK doesn't care anything about changing it up. He wants to win and lose with one QB. That's why the "QB Competition" is so open right now, because then when he names a starter the week before WKU then he won't second guess it. He's not going to play musical QBs, and if he does, 5-7 here we come again.
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Kiffin never said he was sticking with one QB for the season. Here is what he said.

"Great offenses have a rhythm about them. There's a rhythm to the game, just like there's a rhythm to play-calling. If you switch quarterbacks, the cadence is different. The huddle is different. You never create a real rhythm, and you don't get to feel that quarterback."

"I would never alternate quarterbacks."

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I still think he was just saying he was against spurier style shuffling of QB's in and out on different series during a single game. People read too much into this quote.

If the starter plays bad, CLK will pull him in favor of the back up.
Kiffin will win and lose with one QB. If Stephens doesn't win the job this year, we will have a chance to win it next year.
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The thing is, what constitutes playing bad?? Everyone defines that differently, and honestly I think the CLK doesn't care anything about changing it up. He wants to win and lose with one QB. That's why the "QB Competition" is so open right now, because then when he names a starter the week before WKU then he won't second guess it. He's not going to play musical QBs, and if he does, 5-7 here we come again.
What constitutes playing bad is really easy. It's not complicated... if you throw picks, can't hit the open man, complete less than 55% of your throws etc.

It really has nothing to do with Kiffin second guessing himself, but if your qb is getting you beat you don't just leave him out there just like any position.

Will they be rotating in each game? No.

But if JC even plays close to as bad as he did last year there is no way Kiffin leaves him in. He can't.

You talk about dividing a team, well leaving a QB in who is getting you beat will do that just as much as rotating them.
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That's my take. Playing musical QB's divides the team, period.
You're dead-on. We share that opinion. That's a big part of why we've struggled in the past. Playing musical chairs with QBs is dumb.
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Kiffin will win and lose with one QB. If Stephens doesn't win the job this year, we will have a chance to win it next year.
So you really think Kiffin will leave JC in simply because he was named starter before the first game?

That makes zero sense.
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What constitutes playing bad is really easy. It's not complicated... if you throw picks, can't hit the open man, complete less than 55% of your throws etc.

It really has nothing to do with Kiffin second guessing himself, but if your qb is getting you beat you don't just leave him out there just like any position.

Will they be rotating in each game? No.

But if JC even plays close to as bad as he did last year there is no way Kiffin leaves him in. He can't.

You talk about dividing a team, well leaving a QB in who is getting you beat will do that just as much as rotating them.
What Eric is saying is, at the QB you get blamed for a lot of bad play that happens around you. If the O-line doesn't block well, you have to get rid of the ball before you want to, throw it away, or take a sack. That leads to incompletions and sometimes interceptions. If the receiver runs the wrong route, that can lead to incompletions or interceptions. If the receiver drops the ball, that's an incompletion. If you can't get your running game going, teams will drop back and blanket the field with DBs.

There are a lot of things that factor into bad play at the QB position and they aren't all the fault of the QB.
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You're dead-on. We share that opinion. That's a big part of why we've struggled in the past. Playing musical chairs with QBs is dumb.
It really hurt when Schaffer/Ainge/Clausen led the team to the SECCG...

Leaving a guy in who is throwing picks and getting your team beat will divide a team just as quickly.

Especially when it is likely there are already people on the team who want JC to start and other think NS should.
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