Phil, Tommy, Or Tommy?

[BeecherVol]

Originally Posted by VolDad

So who did you pick?

Tubbs

But not hands down, without a shadow of doubt, like some.
I think people would look at it different if Phil and TT was at the other school under these circumstances.

I would also note, the reason for my pick.
TT should still be at AU. I think we made the right choice in what we did.

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by BeecherVol

Not really a vote for Phil, but why is Tubbs the obvious choice? Just because he is not Phil? Would the answer be different if we fired Tubbs, and Aubbie fired Phil? TT was a good coach, but did he rise to power for the same reason that Phil did? (The fall of the Tide for a decade)

No sure this is that cut and dry so to speak.

TT and Fulmer's head to head matchups, as was said earlier,is the determining factor.

[BeecherVol]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

TT and Fulmer's head to head matchups, as was said earlier,is the determining factor.

True, if that is the only game you play all year.

[VolDad]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

TT and Fulmer's head to head matchups, as was said earlier,is the determining factor.

If you count the games while TT was at Ole Miss, then their head to head is pretty even.

[vols461]

Tubbs-

[VKAman]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

Who are these great assistants that Fulmer hired? Pat Washinton? Sanders? Jimmy Ray?

Tuberville had Muschamp and Eddie Gran.

Chizik was also a better assistant than anyone I can think of here. There's a reason that Fulmer's assistants ended up at places like Syracuse.

[utvolpj]

Originally Posted by VKAman

Chizik was also a better assistant than anyone I can think of here. There's a reason that Fulmer's assistants ended up at places like Syracuse.

and HC @ Duke and DC @ LSU (the main ones who saved his rear most of the time)

[VKAman]

Originally Posted by utvolpj

and HC @ Duke and DC @ LSU (the main ones who saved his rear most of the time)

Compared to HC at Auburn and future HC at Texas? Exactly, and that's not including Gran.

[utvolpj]

Originally Posted by VKAman

Compared to HC at Auburn and future HC at Texas? Exactly, and that's not including Gran.

Yes, thanks for proving my point

[VKAman]

Originally Posted by utvolpj

Yes, thanks for proving my point

That Tuberville hires better assistants? It was mine first.

[utvolpj]

no that they're very similar. A DC at a major school (call it "in waiting" if you want but he's still just a highly paid assistant) and a previously failed HC who took over a new team. Only difference is that Chizik had previous connections so his success was not as important.

[VKAman]

Originally Posted by utvolpj

no that they're very similar. A DC at a major school (call it "in waiting" if you want but he's still just a highly paid assistant) and a previously failed HC who took over a new team. Only difference is that Chizik had previous connections so his success was not as important.

Iowa State is at least as prestigious as Duke football. And it does matter because Muschamp will be the HC at Texas, while Chavis is nowhere near capable of getting the head job at Texas Christian or SMU. That's a huge difference.

[VKAman]

Muschamp was named HC in waiting to keep him from becoming HC at another school right now. LSU will never have to worry about that with Chavis. There's a reason.

[Godfatha]

Tubberville. Phil lost his fire a long time ago. Tubberville has had recent success. I'll give Phil Lovie Smith, who I wasn't a big fan of but has had success, and Garner. If I had to take a gameday coach between the three, who would get his team prepared, it would be Tubberville.
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[K Zed]

Phil.