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07-02-2009, 01:11 AM
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#181 (permalink)
| | Orange Juiced
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| owww-right!!!!!!!!!!!!! #3!!!!!!!! | 
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07-02-2009, 09:22 AM
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#182 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by GAVol  I have no doubt about Monte's ability to transition to the college game, but IMO no matter how good the coordinator is, it's still mostly about the talent on the field. | Mostly the operative here. Quote:
Originally Posted by oklavol Fulmer/Sanders shot some holes in that theory. | Quote:
Originally Posted by GAVol How so? Fulmer/Sanders could look at the schedule before the year started and know that they had as good or better talent than 9 or 10 teams. | Exactly, we usually beat the teams we could "out-talent," but over the years the talent slipped... and the losses mounted, and it got to the point where even crappy teams started beating us because of the mediocre talent and subpar coaching. Quote:
Originally Posted by Vercingetorix Tennessee's defensive performance in the second half of the UCLA game last year didn't seem to have much to do with the talent on the field. | Thats the outlier on the "mostly!"
The silver lining was that loss started the wheels turning in earnest. It was an undeniable wake up call for the state of the program and its stagnant leadership. | 
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07-02-2009, 03:29 PM
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#183 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by GAVol How so? Fulmer/Sanders could look at the schedule before the year started and know that they had as good or better talent than 9 or 10 teams. | I thought Fulmer/Sanders demonstrated you could have more talent then the team your playing, and consistently lose; i.e. Vols 2005.
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07-03-2009, 12:13 PM
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#184 (permalink)
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|  And 2004?
In 2004, Fulmer/Sanders demonstrated you could play in the SEC title game with two freshmen QBs and a transfer....
I think Lane has plenty to make a run, and I think the Vols probably will | |
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07-03-2009, 12:15 PM
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#185 (permalink)
| | Volmeister extraordinaire
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Originally Posted by Writer32 In 2004, Fulmer/Sanders demonstrated you could play in the SEC title game with two freshmen QBs and a transfer....
I think Lane has plenty to make a run, and I think the Vols probably will |  | |
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07-03-2009, 12:17 PM
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#186 (permalink)
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Didn't that defense also get four INTs against UCLA in that game?
Just wondering.
It was an ugly game all the way around, to be sure. | |
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07-03-2009, 12:20 PM
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#187 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Writer32 Didn't that defense also get four INTs against UCLA in that game?
Just wondering. | True. All in one half, too. Sure, they still lost, but how many other defensive units can say they had four interceptions in a half? Not too many, I bet!
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07-03-2009, 01:55 PM
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| | Voide of Reason
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Originally Posted by Writer32 Didn't that defense also get four INTs against UCLA in that game?
Just wondering.
It was an ugly game all the way around, to be sure. | Didn’t that defense also allow UCLA to drive down their throats and score touchdowns on their last 2 possessions in the 4th quarter; then give up the game losing field goal on the 1st possession of overtime.
Fortunately, we can say Chavis coached a good game because they did not give up a play greater than 37 yards. | |
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07-03-2009, 02:20 PM
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#189 (permalink)
| | Dusting the rafters
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Originally Posted by VolDad Didn’t that defense also allow UCLA to drive down their throats and score touchdowns on their last 2 possessions in the 4th quarter; then give up the game losing field goal on the 1st possession of overtime.
Fortunately, we can say Chavis coached a good game because they did not give up a play greater than 37 yards. | Exactly.
Chavis' coaching abilitues are always brought up, yet all I remember all the 3rd and longs that have been given up over the years. The 3rd down in the AU game still drives me nuts.
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07-03-2009, 02:26 PM
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#190 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by volsforever27 Exactly.
Chavis' coaching abilitues are always brought up, yet all I remember all the 3rd and longs that have been given up over the years. The 3rd down in the AU game still drives me nuts. | You think people said "3rd and Chavis" on a 3rd and 58 for nothing? | |
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07-03-2009, 02:32 PM
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#191 (permalink)
| | Dusting the rafters
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Originally Posted by Business You think people said "3rd and Chavis" on a 3rd and 58 for nothing? | Which is why I question the fact that he's such a great coach.
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07-03-2009, 02:58 PM
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#192 (permalink)
| | Orange Juiced
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The 3rd down in the AU game still drives me nuts.
| Thankfully, one of many pieces of the puzzle that led to a coaching change. | |
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07-03-2009, 04:40 PM
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#193 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tidwell True. All in one half, too. Sure, they still lost, but how many other defensive units can say they had four interceptions in a half? Not too many, I bet! | Clawson
Lost the UCLA game for us, by failing to stick to running the football.
We had a ridiculous yards per attempt runnng the ball, and Clawson continued to throw the ball. Crompton bounced so many passes that game, I thought we was Ernie Grunfeld
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07-03-2009, 04:52 PM
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#194 (permalink)
| | Voide of Reason
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Originally Posted by vol_in_il Clawson
Lost the UCLA game for us, by failing to stick to running the football.
We had a ridiculous yards per attempt runnng the ball, and Clawson continued to throw the ball. Crompton bounced so many passes that game, I thought we was Ernie Grunfeld | The Crompton/Foster fumble at the UCLA 6 on our opening possession of the 2nd half was a game changing moment.
With that said, we were simply outcoached all the way around. | |
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07-03-2009, 07:19 PM
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#195 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by vol_in_il Clawson
Lost the UCLA game for us, by failing to stick to running the football.
We had a ridiculous yards per attempt runnng the ball, and Clawson continued to throw the ball. Crompton bounced so many passes that game, I thought we was Ernie Grunfeld | I know, I know. Clawson got Fulmer fired, everything was fine at UT before Clawson stepped foot on campus, I know.
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