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Old 10-21-2008, 02:13 PM   #106 (permalink)
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And why in the world do we want Kiffin? Just because the guy was hired as the Raiders coach makes him automatically a great hire?

Let's roll out the checkbook and go after somebody that we know will turn it around. If Bama can do it, UT can pull it off.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:15 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Kiffin will use the clemson job to more money from other schools. He will not go to clemson.

If you've ever been to Clemson, you'd have to wonder who would ever want to live in that place.
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:27 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Football Patterson is much better than Muschamp!!!!!!!

I knew Pearl was going to be great from day one! Like Bruce Pearl, when Pearl was at Milwaukee. Patterson is doing an awesome job with far less talent than UT. His recruiting classes are mainly in the 30-80 range in the nation. Patterson has to recruit against Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, and LSU. All these schools are within a 7 hour drive of Fort Worth.

Sooners Offense vs Longhorns Defense

Rush Yds avg TD long
26 48 1.8 0 13

pass yards avg TD int
28/41 387 9.4 5 2

Sooners Offense vs TCU Defense

Rush Yds avg TD long
36 25 0.7 1 7

pass yards avg TD int
19/34 411 12.1 4 0

Oklahoma got almost half of their offensive yard total in the first quarter. TCU made adjustments and held them to 200 yards in three quarters. Oklahoma averages 164 yards per game on the ground. TCU held them to 25 yards for a .7 yard per carry average! TCU ran for 102 yards versus the Sooners for a 2.9 yard average.

Consider this, Patterson's team kicked BYUs tail. TCU has much less talent on paper than us. Chavis would have went to the ' mustang ' all day versus BYU. We lose to BYU with much more talent than TCU!!! TCU holds BYU to 26 pts below their season average. Remember, they scored 59 versus UCLA.

Below is what Patterson's defense did versus BYU.

Rush Yds avg TD long
28 23 0.8 1 13

pass yards avg TD int
22/42 274 6.5 0 2

Can you imagine what Patterson could do with our defense? Great defensive and offensive lines win championships. TCU is 1st in the NCCA with only 21 yards allowed on the ground. While the offense rushes for 233 yards per game which is 11th in the nation.

No, TCU doesn't play the caliber of teams we play. But, they don't have the caliber of players we have either. It all comes down to fundamentals and schemes. Patterson would win a few National Titles with the talent we get.

Everyone thinks Fulmer is one of the few who can recruit great out of state talent, BS. Did you know? Fulmer was 0-9 versus Florida in the last recruiting class. He was 2-15 versus Bama. And, Fulmer let our best two in state prospects land in Bama. Fulmer is washed up in all aspects of coaching!!!!!!!
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:54 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:39 PM   #110 (permalink)
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When will hamilton make contact with Butch Davis? I'm worried about him taking the Clemson job.
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:40 PM   #111 (permalink)
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When will hamilton make contact with Butch Davis? I'm worried about him taking the Clemson job.
Seriously?
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:43 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Clemson can pay a boatload more cash than UNC, maybe $3 mil if needed. Unc can't possibly match that.
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They can have Kiffen. My choice is in IDAHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-22-2008, 07:50 PM   #114 (permalink)
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I knew Pearl was going to be great from day one! Like Bruce Pearl, when Pearl was at Milwaukee. Patterson is doing an awesome job with far less talent than UT. His recruiting classes are mainly in the 30-80 range in the nation. Patterson has to recruit against Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, and LSU. All these schools are within a 7 hour drive of Fort Worth.

Sooners Offense vs Longhorns Defense

Rush Yds avg TD long
26 48 1.8 0 13

pass yards avg TD int
28/41 387 9.4 5 2

Sooners Offense vs TCU Defense

Rush Yds avg TD long
36 25 0.7 1 7

pass yards avg TD int
19/34 411 12.1 4 0

Oklahoma got almost half of their offensive yard total in the first quarter. TCU made adjustments and held them to 200 yards in three quarters. Oklahoma averages 164 yards per game on the ground. TCU held them to 25 yards for a .7 yard per carry average! TCU ran for 102 yards versus the Sooners for a 2.9 yard average.

Consider this, Patterson's team kicked BYUs tail. TCU has much less talent on paper than us. Chavis would have went to the ' mustang ' all day versus BYU. We lose to BYU with much more talent than TCU!!! TCU holds BYU to 26 pts below their season average. Remember, they scored 59 versus UCLA.

Below is what Patterson's defense did versus BYU.

Rush Yds avg TD long
28 23 0.8 1 13

pass yards avg TD int
22/42 274 6.5 0 2

Can you imagine what Patterson could do with our defense? Great defensive and offensive lines win championships. TCU is 1st in the NCCA with only 21 yards allowed on the ground. While the offense rushes for 233 yards per game which is 11th in the nation.

No, TCU doesn't play the caliber of teams we play. But, they don't have the caliber of players we have either. It all comes down to fundamentals and schemes. Patterson would win a few National Titles with the talent we get.

Everyone thinks Fulmer is one of the few who can recruit great out of state talent, BS. Did you know? Fulmer was 0-9 versus Florida in the last recruiting class. He was 2-15 versus Bama. And, Fulmer let our best two in state prospects land in Bama. Fulmer is washed up in all aspects of coaching!!!!!!!
I like Patterson also. Wouldn't turn down Muschamp though. Brian Kelly is another coach i like alot.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:10 PM   #115 (permalink)
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Go after butch davis, who has a national title. Forget the unproven up and comer types.
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:44 PM   #116 (permalink)
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Here is another article on the same subject. Clemson is now looking at muschamp.
Tigers Target Texas Assistant :: FITSNews
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:57 PM   #117 (permalink)
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Go after butch davis, who has a national title. Forget the unproven up and comer types.
Actually, he doesn't have a national title. He's still my pick though.
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Old 10-24-2008, 05:02 PM   #118 (permalink)
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If you've ever been to Clemson, you'd have to wonder who would ever want to live in that place.
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A west coast, LA guy living in Clemson, with all those rednecks?
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