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10-12-2008, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kptvol Bill Callahan ruined the Raiders after taking over one of the NFL's better programs. Lane Kiffin started the rebuilding process Art Shell and Norv Turner failed. There are about 30 guys I'd take over Mike Leach. Not running the ball won't fly in the SEC. | Like I said, Kiffin may turn out to be good college coach. But he hasn't shown me he is yet. He lost with the Raiders, rebuilding project or no, and he was merely a cog in the machine at USC. So on my list he's behind the guys who are proven winners like Leach and Kelly.
And I'll have you know that Texas Tech is averaging over 100 yards per game rushing right now, to go with their over 400 yards per game passing. They actually have more rushing yards than we do, both through 6 games. To me, it's the perfect approach. The rest of the conference is recruiting the bulldozing lineman and we're falling behind. Lets get the lean agile guys they get and toss it around. |
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10-12-2008, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Nothing Face Like I said, Kiffin may turn out to be good college coach. But he hasn't shown me he is yet. He lost with the Raiders, rebuilding project or no, and he was merely a cog in the machine at USC. So on my list he's behind the guys who are proven winners like Leach and Kelly.
And I'll have you know that Texas Tech is averaging over 100 yards per game rushing right now, to go with their over 400 yards per game passing. They actually have more rushing yards than we do, both through 6 games. To me, it's the perfect approach. The rest of the conference is recruiting the bulldozing lineman and we're falling behind. Lets get the lean agile guys they get and toss it around. | The last time Texas Tech played an SEC defense their vaunted O put up a 6 points. Leach has only one season thus far where he's lost less than 4 games. That's in the Big 12. He's far from a proven winner. |
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10-12-2008, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kptvol The last time Texas Tech played an SEC defense their vaunted O put up a 6 points. Leach has only one season thus far where he's lost less than 4 games. That's in the Big 12. He's far from a proven winner. | They scored 10 actually, and that was his worst team at Tech. And the Big 12 is not the Sun Belt, in fact it's better than the SEC this year. And he's 2-1 against SEC teams overall. And Leach has never had a losing season as a head coach (more than you can say for UT's last 3 coaches). And, thats all I got. |
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10-12-2008, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nothing Face They scored 10 actually, and that was his worst team at Tech. And the Big 12 is not the Sun Belt, in fact it's better than the SEC this year. And he's 2-1 against SEC teams overall. And Leach has never had a losing season as a head coach (more than you can say for UT's last 3 coaches). And, thats all I got. | Texas Tech hasn't had a losing record since 1992. They play in a horrible conference. Doing better than Phil Fulmer's recent years doesn't make you a phenom. |
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10-12-2008, 11:58 AM
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| Mike Leach would be a disastrous hire. He is 3-13 against OU and Texas. That isn't a proven winner.
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10-12-2008, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Nothing Face They scored 10 actually, and that was his worst team at Tech. And the Big 12 is not the Sun Belt, in fact it's better than the SEC this year. And he's 2-1 against SEC teams overall. And Leach has never had a losing season as a head coach (more than you can say for UT's last 3 coaches). And, thats all I got. | Bill Battle NEVER had a losing record at UT  |
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10-12-2008, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Nothing Face They scored 10 actually, and that was his worst team at Tech. And the Big 12 is not the Sun Belt, in fact it's better than the SEC this year. And he's 2-1 against SEC teams overall. And Leach has never had a losing season as a head coach (more than you can say for UT's last 3 coaches). And, thats all I got. | Not it isn't. OSU, Missouri, and Kansas=frauds who haven't won a big game.
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10-12-2008, 11:59 AM
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| By the way kpt, do you really think Gruden is possible?
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10-12-2008, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tvolsfan Matt Leach would be a disastrous hire. He is 3-13 against OU and Texas. That isn't a proven winner. | I don't know this Matt Leach, but Mike Leach is at Texas Tech, not exactly USC. There are not many coaches who could do what he's done there and they're at least fun to watch if nothing else. |
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10-12-2008, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tvolsfan BTW KTP, do you reall think Gruden is possible? | No, and I believe Gruden would be another disaster. |
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10-12-2008, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nothing Face I don't know this Matt Leach, but Mike Leach is at Texas Tech, not exactly USC. There are not many coaches who could do what he's done there and they're at least fun to watch if nothing else. | Yeah. Instead of Florida beating us 59-20, they would win 79-27.
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10-12-2008, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tvolsfan BTW KTP, do you reall think Gruden is possible? | no |
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10-12-2008, 12:01 PM
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10-12-2008, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tvolsfan Yeah. Instead of Florida beating us 59-20, they would win 79-27. | Texas Tech beat Oklahoma last year, who was better than Florida. And Texas Tech doesn't have near the players we do. |
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10-12-2008, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Nothing Face No, and I believe Gruden would be another disaster. | Gruden winning percentage isn't even that much lower than Leach's, and Gruden is in the NFL. Gruden also has a super bowl ring. If an AD hired Leach when Gruden was willing, he wouldn't be in charge much longer.
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