New Pay Raise for Fulmer Announced (Merged)

[jakez4ut]

Originally Posted by VolDad

What more were you looking for?

something that actually explained why this may or may not be true. a) in state talent in FL and PA isn't exactly comparable to TN. b) a lot of things impact recruiting classes.....how many scholly's did each school have to offer those years? how many did they sign? just throwing up a number and saying "oh well, there you go"....is condescending to my intelligence level.

i think Fulmer's time has come and gone as well. but the BS laid out in this, is so far off the mark it's not even funny.

[sjt18]

Originally Posted by tennfanatic

I was being sarcastic! I just cant understand giving someone a raise for doing absolutely nothing. Nothing personal against the guy, but what has he done for the program over the last ten years. Where are the SEC championships or BCS game appearances.

I don't agree with a base increase, increased buyout, or more than a 5 yr contract...

But concerning his performance, if you were as successful at a comparable level of competition in your field of expertise as Fulmer is... you wouldn't be here complaining about what he makes.

Fulmer is competing in by far and away the best conference in college football. I'm not an SEC homer. It hasn't always been that way. It probably won't always be that way. But right now if you look at the talent and coaching in the SEC... no other conference comes close.

Want some proof? Check out Zook. Run out of a rail at UF... two years later the Illini have their best season in years and a Rose Bowl berth.

[Vol423]

Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire

He earned every bit of it!

Embrace the mediocrity!!!

[jakez4ut]

now the contract and extension and buy out.......all worthy of critique......makes no sense to me either.

[walt2007]

Also inexcusable, unconscionable, execrable...I was a Fulmer supporter until last year, but this is just repulsive...Hamilton needs to be smacked.

There was no point whatsoever to this, other than to protect his crony. As another poster mentioned, it's not like dozens of other schools (or probably any) are vying to steal our coach away from us. He's already making over two million a year; we haven't won the conference in ten years, despite multiple top-ten recruiting classes; we got annihilated last year by two of our three biggest rivals, and a PAC-1 team that ended up going 6-6...So that equals a lengthy extension with raises like he actually accomplished something?

Wow. Must be nice to have a job (Hamilton) in which you're completely immune from all accountability and have no shame about proving to the whole world you're a good ol' boy.

[salutethehill]

Longevity counts for something. Take us to another SEC CG this year Phil and let's win it this time.

[duckman398686]

how exactly does losing the sec title game and being on the bad end of 2 blowouts to your rivals constitute a pay raise?

[sjt18]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

He examined LSU, Bama, Florida, and FSU. Who should he be comparing ourselves to?

ALL of those schools have a vastly superior recruiting bases to that of UT. The best region in Tn is even a disadvantage for UT since it is on the other side of the state. You might as well be recruiting eastern NC.

[OrangeEmpire]

Originally Posted by duckman398686

how exactly does losing the sec title game and being on the bad end of 2 blowouts to your rivals constitute a pay raise?

Raise = Admitting that being middle of the pack is acceptable..............

[jakez4ut]

this thread is for people that need to be told what they think.

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by jakez4ut

something that actually explained why this may or may not be true. a) in state talent in FL and PA isn't exactly comparable to TN. b) a lot of things impact recruiting classes.....how many scholly's did each school have to offer those years? how many did they sign? just throwing up a number and saying "oh well, there you go"....is condescending to my intelligence level.

i think Fulmer's time has come and gone as well. but the BS laid out in this, is so far off the mark it's not even funny.

It is clear that FL has more talent than Tennessee. I'm not quite sure how that relates to Fulmer's raise or this conversation, but it is what it is. The only thing that should concern you about recruits in Tennessee (which he hit on in the post) is that Alabama has gotten their fair share out of our state.

[jakez4ut]

3.3 mil is a bit steep for 5th place.

[TreeGreen]

Originally Posted by walt2007

Wow. Must be nice to have a job (Hamilton) in which you're completely immune from all accountability and have no shame about proving to the whole world you're a good ol' boy.

At the moment he benefits from hiring and retaining Bruce Pearl. As far as his football raise goes, Fulmer will either make this look like a very smart move (by returning the program to excellence), or a very costly one that ended up back-firing. Hamilton will have to bank on Fulmer not having any more losing seasons, and heaven forbid he has something back-to-back or close because then his job will be in jeopardy.

[OrangeEmpire]

Originally Posted by sjt18

ALL of those schools have a vastly superior recruiting bases to that of UT. The best region in Tn is even a disadvantage for UT since it is on the other side of the state. You might as well be recruiting eastern NC.

I thought it was a consensus that Fulmer's greatest talent is recruiting... why should a home recruiting base matter if he is actually that great?

Has something changed from the 90's and early 20's to now?

[Rasputin_Vol]

Originally Posted by sjt18

ALL of those schools have a vastly superior recruiting bases to that of UT. The best region in Tn is even a disadvantage for UT since it is on the other side of the state. You might as well be recruiting eastern NC.

FSU has a better recruiting base and he clearly showed how their recruiting has gone down in spite of them being in Florida and them having stability at the head coaching position. The argument that a raise is needed to help in recruiting and show coaching stability is pure bull... Bowden can't even get much better talent than we are (which was also pointed out)...