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05-23-2008, 04:59 PM
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| | Big Black UT Belly
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Originally Posted by govols182  1998 was one of the best for sure
I don't see how you can say Ellix Wilson and Nevin McKenzie are as good as any of those guys. Ellix has started one game in his career and Nevin played LB half of last season. Rico is probably close to 98's level but 98 is still way better. |
Read my post. I said that 98's starters were better but this year's crew is deeper and I feel that they have more potential talent. There wasn't a whole lot behind the '98 starters. I also said that several of the players that I mentioned still have yet to prove themselves. However, if what we heard out of spring practice is true and if these guys live up to their expected potential then this class of LB's should be more talented and give our D the ability to look at 34 schemes. There is no question that this class is deeper and more athletic. | 
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05-23-2008, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WPAINE I agree.. gainesvol you are throwing names in there like Marlon Walls who isn't even on campus yet... How can he possibly be considered as part of our "deep and talented" LB corps? However, I will agree with you that outside of Wilson, Raynoch, and Eric Westmoreland our 98 team didn't really have any other solid LB's... |
Take Marlon Walls name out and it doesn't change the point. Besides, there have been no indications that Marlon Walls won't make it in this fall. | |
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05-23-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gainesvol82 Take Marlon Walls name out and it doesn't change the point. Besides, there have been no indications that Marlon Walls won't make it in this fall. | True, but even if he does make it in there are no guaranteed indications that he should even be mentioned, you know? I understand your point, but just think your argument is more solid if you remove people that haven't even stepped on the field yet, regardless of their recruiting stars... Just doesn't make sense why you would include Chris Donald and Marlon Walls in your argument, since right now they are nothing more special than the 2nd or 3rd stringers that UT had in 1998... | 
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05-23-2008, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gainesvol82 Al was one of the best linebackers ever at UT. Thompson and Westmoreland were solid too. The starting 3 from '98 were better but the entire LB corps is better/deeper. Rico McCoy, G. Williams, Ellix Wilson, Nevin McKenzie, Nick Reveiz, Savion Frazier, Marlon Walls and Chris Donald might be the deepest unit we've ever had. Some of these guys need to prove themselves on the field but I don't see us having any shortage of LB talent next year. If Mayo had stayed, there wouldn't be any doubt that this is our best LB group ever. | I would have agreed with you if Mayo had come back. After all, he is as good as any linebacker to play at Knoxville. Even if no one else thinks so, New England did. They drafted him higher than Jack Reynolds or Al Wilson was drafted.
The best linebacker group would have to be Kiner and Reynolds unless you count Leonard Little as a LB and put him with Raynoch and Wilson. | |
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05-23-2008, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by orangeblood I would have agreed with you if Mayo had come back. After all, he is as good as any linebacker to play at Knoxville. Even if no one else thinks so, New England did. They drafted him higher than Jack Reynolds or Al Wilson was drafted.
The best linebacker group would have to be Kiner and Reynolds unless you count Leonard Little as a LB and put him with Raynoch and Wilson. |
I can respect that. I love Mayo but I always thought that Rico was a more impressive LB. | |
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05-23-2008, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hmanvolfan How long is it gonna be till football?  |
Too long and the season will be too short. I feel sick....  | |
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05-23-2008, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by orangeblood I would have agreed with you if Mayo had come back. After all, he is as good as any linebacker to play at Knoxville. Even if no one else thinks so, New England did. They drafted him higher than Jack Reynolds or Al Wilson was drafted.
The best linebacker group would have to be Kiner and Reynolds unless you count Leonard Little as a LB and put him with Raynoch and Wilson. | The Pats chose Mayo so high because of his character. | |
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05-23-2008, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chavisut The Pats chose Mayo so high because of his character. |  Good one!!!! I'm not doubting OJ's character, but don't ya think his football abilities had a little to do with him being picked so high by a team like the Patriots? | |
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05-23-2008, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gainesvol82 our overall linebacking talent should be higher than the '98 team. | I know I say this once a month, but worst post of 2008.
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05-23-2008, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hmanvolfan Good one!!!! I'm not doubting OJ's character, but don't ya think his football abilities had a little to do with him being picked so high by a team like the Patriots? | No, the Pats pick good character guys with no football abilities at all. Some people crack me up. | |
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05-23-2008, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by VolinArizona I know I say this once a month, but worst post of 2008. | I don't think there is one part of this years team that was better than the 98 team. The DBs have a chance to be better, but thats about it IMO. | |
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05-23-2008, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chavisut I don't think there is one part of this years team that was better than the 98 team. The DBs have a chance to be better, but thats about it IMO. | Quarterback and WR's.... However, the 1999 team was arguably "better" on paper than the 1998 team, so lets just hope that this team is as lucky as the 1998 team and we will be in good shape... | |
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05-23-2008, 06:41 PM
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| By QB and WR, i mean they both have the chance to be better... There may not be a Peerless Price, but it can be argued that the 1998 team didn't have a Gerald Jones type player either... | |
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05-23-2008, 07:20 PM
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| | Valid Victorian
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| The 98 team had 3 NFLers on it - Price, Wilson, and Parker.
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