Bad News For Tennessee

[HawaiiVol]

The result of the game defied all that math. There's really nothing more to understand.

[lidderer]

Originally Posted by TennTom

and that is why we play the game.....is there a mathmatical formula measuring heart and hustle Lid?

Not once in this thread nor that article was it suggested that "The Vols should not bother playing any more games because it is gauranteed they are going to lose based on these numbers."

"They wanted it more" and "He had more hustle/grit/oomph/whathever" are boring sports platitudes that aren't really interesting conversation on a sports forum, no matter their truth.

I mean what good is it to say "Hey guys, new poster here, just thought i'd chime in and say that the key to beating vanderbilt is Heart and Caring and Grit, and I hope coach P really practices those impossible-to-practice things before the big game!"

But to answer your question: Yes, there is a formula for evaluating heart and hustle, and it's called Heart Variable Evaluator Number-Thingy and Tyler Smith had a 17.2 HVEN-T last night and that was totally the difference between our winning and losing.

[lidderer]

Originally Posted by HawaiiVol

The result of the game defied all that math. There's really nothing more to understand.

You do realize that when someone says, say, "there is a 62% chance of X happening" and then X doesn't happen that doesn't mean anything was defied, right?

I mean read any article about last night's game, they all talk of the differences that led to the final result; like our usually absent rebounding, memphis' early 3 pt streak, etc. What makes these elements interesting is that they are not the norm. In order for that interest to develop, one needs a norm to deviate from. Numbers tell you what will likely happen, they also make no bones about the fact that 'likely' is far different from the word 'always'.

Ya know what did Memphis in? FT %.

[indyvol15]

Originally Posted by lidderer

Classic case of offering no alternative position and grandstanding behind empty platitudes devoid of any backing.

This seems a legit point of arguement vs our Vols' chances at longevity come March. You think otherwise, and why?

stats can never replace heart and resilience, and brother this team has both.Passion PoisePurposeStick that into a stat book

[lidderer]

Originally Posted by indyvol15

stats can never replace heart and resilience, and brother this team has both.Passion PoisePurposeStick that into a stat book

Stats arent attempting to replace anything; they are adding to our understanding.

And I'll take a lazy and heartless 6"11 rebounding machine over a 5"4 philanthropist who shoots 13% from behind the arc.

[jsc1973]

What that boils down to is this:

If Tennessee runs into a team in the NCAA Tournament that takes good care of the ball, and Tennessee doesn't play well in that game, it will likely lose.

Which anyone with half an ounce of sense already knows, and has known for months. It doesn't take a mathematician to know what kind of team matches up well against UT.

[lidderer]

Originally Posted by jsc1973

What that boils down to is this:

If Tennessee runs into a team in the NCAA Tournament that takes good care of the ball, and Tennessee doesn't play well in that game, it will likely lose.

Which anyone with half an ounce of sense already knows, and has known for months. It doesn't take a mathematician to know what kind of team matches up well against UT.

FILE AS INSTANCE 48 of not really understanding that this isn't saying 'omg look at this! it's a number! all ur opinions are wrong! LISTEN TO THIS NUMBER! NUMBERS VS OPINIONS! ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN!".

And please, read the thread/article again to realize that your summary of it is glossing over other things.

Stop wanting every article to be a prophecy, and enjoy the numbers; they are a different way of explaining and talking about the sport/team you love.

[lidderer]

also jsc1973, you should probably edit out that asterisked-profanity, because the mods edited out instances when i simply typed the first letter. Just a heads up.

[BigPapaVol]

we have begun to rely less upon the TO. the argument that teams with handle will be our doom, is dying quickly. we aren't any longer 3 centric. the arguments against our success are rapidly being put to rest.

Enemies beware.

[lidderer]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

we have begun to rely less upon the TO. the argument that teams with handle will be our doom, is dying quickly. we aren't any longer 3 centric. the arguments against our success are rapidly being put to rest.

Enemies beware.

The less 3-centric development in recent weeks has been a wonderful surprise.

I'd still argue that IF there is a team out there that can beat us it will be a team with great handle though. Which is not to say they will, necessary, but a showdown with texas again is the last thing I'd want, mostly because they are the best at handling.

[BigPapaVol]

tx can't beat us again.

dominant paint guys scare me.

[Sudden Impact]

this is a case where brains have taken over reality. You are so smart you have no common sense.

there are no intangibles in this picture. Plus we did not have crews and jp in the game against TX. there is a formula that should add the changes or factors if they are in or out of the game. This is a lot of stupidity

[lidderer]

Originally Posted by Sudden Impact

this is a case where brains have taken over reality. You are so smart you have no common sense.

there are no intangibles in this picture. Plus we did not have crews and jp in the game against TX. there is a formula that should add the changes or factors if they are in or out of the game. This is a lot of stupidity

INSTANCE 49

[Sudden Impact]

Originally Posted by lidderer

INSTANCE 49

?????????????? you have lost it.?????????????

[MillsfieldVOL]

Originally Posted by volfan55

Wow

Me too, just win the rest of the games, and see what happens,TENNESSEE #1,I hope and pray.