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10-09-2007, 09:08 AM
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| Punt returns
This is the ONLY area I had a problem with Saturday. JH let one bounce that cost us some yards. He also fair caught one with nobody close (he has done that a few times this year). He had an ok average to start the year but with him playing defense is it a matter of him being tired or has he been instructed to do this. Are there other options for returner? I keep hearing how the coaches rave about Rogan's kick return abilities. Thoughts? | 
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10-09-2007, 09:19 AM
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| | Valid Victorian
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| I'll say this, the reason he fair caught that one was because UT had the block on. The majority of the time there would have been guys screaming downfield right in his face as the ball got there.
Not excusing the fair catch (he should be able to tell that no one is near him) but that is what they are taught to do when the punt block is on.
The options for returner: Austin Rogers and Dennis Rogan.
Rogan has been a great returner in practice, but he's undersized and a freshman, which means CPF would rather have all his teeth pulled simultaneously than play him.
Rogers is nothing more than a fair catch machine. | |
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10-09-2007, 09:24 AM
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| | Buck Fama
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| We need some dynamics back there. It's going to be important going down the stretch. This team needs every edge it can get. | |
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10-09-2007, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by GAVol  Dynamic punt returners are great, but first and foremost I want a guy back there who will field everything he can and secure the football. | my feelings exactly... | |
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10-09-2007, 10:06 AM
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| | Valid Victorian
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Originally Posted by GAVol Dynamic punt returners are great, but first and foremost I want a guy back there who will field everything he can and secure the football. | That is another great point | |
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10-09-2007, 10:37 AM
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| | hoping for a turnaround
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Originally Posted by GAVol Dynamic punt returners are great, but first and foremost I want a guy back there who will field everything he can and secure the football. | exactly. I view yards on punt returns almost as a bonus. If you don't force turnovers and get us pinned deep i'm fine w/ returns. Stand on the ten and if it goes over your head, so be it. Otherwise try and get it and see what happens. I can't stand to see someone catch it at the two only to make it to the 8. | |
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10-09-2007, 10:41 AM
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| so i guess we should just put 11 on the line and go for the block and forget about returns? | |
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10-09-2007, 11:35 AM
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| I think there's a chance you see Vinson there next year, once he's healthy. No way we can put him back there with his injury right now. | |
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10-09-2007, 11:41 AM
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| | hoping for a turnaround
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| kickoff and punt returns may not be the best place right now, but I'm saying this in this thread:
I just want to see Gerald Jones on the field somewhere doing something.....
that is all | |
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10-09-2007, 11:43 AM
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| Hey, at least he didn't have 4 returns for -17 yards this time...
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10-09-2007, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jwells I think there's a chance you see Vinson there next year, once he's healthy. No way we can put him back there with his injury right now. | I believe his pride was the only thing that got hurt! Later on the sidelines he looked fine lifting that gatorade jug up! | |
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10-09-2007, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by crimedawg12 I believe his pride was the only thing that got hurt! Later on the sidelines he looked fine lifting that gatorade jug up! | It's an injury that he came to college with..he can play through it, but will have to have surgery after the season. I imagine that it's not the best idea to put him through that much pain and being on the receiving end of hits when he's not healthy. | |
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10-09-2007, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by crimedawg12 This is the ONLY area I had a problem with Saturday. JH let one bounce that cost us some yards. He also fair caught one with nobody close (he has done that a few times this year). He had an ok average to start the year but with him playing defense is it a matter of him being tired or has he been instructed to do this. Are there other options for returner? I keep hearing how the coaches rave about Rogan's kick return abilities. Thoughts? | Hefney is 94th in NCAA stats in punt returns. In kick off returns Coker is 18th, not too bad. | |
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10-09-2007, 04:02 PM
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| Id like to see either Creer or Berry back recieving punts. Lord knows Hefney is really stinking up the field when he is on it. | |
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