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08-28-2007, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by allvol123 Jake you really aren't helping the cause with things like "phorensic".  | fixed...... 
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08-28-2007, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by allvol123 Ha! Me too, when were you there? | 94-97
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08-28-2007, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jakez4ut 94-97 | Damn dude, we probably crossed paths. 93-95 for me. |
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08-28-2007, 02:37 PM
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| I always find it amazing that Cal posters (not all) seem to talk at us and not to us.The fact is, I,as well as several posters on here, have a lot of contacts (family) in California.Neice was a cheerleader at Claremont High at one time,another neice (md) interning at UCLA Hospital,nephew, Cal Riverside freshman,etc.Brother in laws family owns a huge printing business out there.I have been there numerous times and love CA.I saw the Dead play in an outside concert when Garcia was still living,saw Tommy Lasorda's coach in his last season at Dodger Stadium,etc.Some of you guys embarrass me simply because my sister and her family lives out there, especially Teddyhead  .Give us a break please........ |
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08-28-2007, 02:47 PM
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| I gradumacated in Phorensics from Tenuhsee! |
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08-28-2007, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vol_freak First of all, let's clear up some misconceptions about Tennessee students/alumni, namely that you aren't all rednecks. Tell us what your university has contributed to the academic landscape to get rid of those football sneers. | The University of Tennessee - Distinguished Alumni
there are quite a few Pulitzer Prize winners in there. At least one Nobel Laureate, several Rhodes Scholars, and if it weren't for Mark Dean ('79) the PC as we know it might be something completely different.
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08-28-2007, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Californicator I gradumacated in Phorensics from Tenuhsee! | I was gonna back Jake up but he did mangle that one pretty bad. Never claimed us logistics guys could spell  |
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08-28-2007, 02:52 PM
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| It was a simple mistake by Jake. Maybe we should request the mighty Californicated actually post something of any significance before he starts in on how much greater he is than all of us. |
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08-28-2007, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by allvol123 It was a simple mistake by Jake. Maybe we should request the mighty Californicated actually post something of any significance before he starts in on how much greater he is than all of us. | well his other post was about uniform color so I wouldn't hold my breath |
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08-28-2007, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by vol_freak There has long been a contention that SEC fans are more passionate and diehard in support of their teams, especially in contrast to the laid-back Pac-10. Having lived and travelled through the South in my formative years, I know how much you guys care about it, perhaps tooo much. Is this really a good thing, or does it burn you out (especially after a loss to Florida or LSU)? | Nope. These guys all love it, every day of every year. The conversation I find to be far more engaging is why support for college football in the south is the way it is, and its origins. That's another thread. Quote: |
I assume most of you were at Rocky Top last year. How much do you think the crowd contributed to the demolition of Cal? Or was the team that much better?
| I wasn't there, but I'd say probably both. From all accounts I've heard, Autzen Stadium is the only Pac-10 stadium that is capable of producing noise in the same ballpark as SEC stadiums. And living in Oregon, I can tell you that's rare. It's only for those special visits like USC or Michigan. Quote: |
Why does UT seem to fall into complacency after certain games? You guys were dominant against us and then nearly got knocked off by Air Force the next week. Your teams have so much talent yet have fallen short ever since '98. Any idea where these lapses stem from? Does the team just get too psyched up after huge victories?
| Classic symptoms of the trap game. Letdown after a big win, and Air Force is one of those teams that is capable of jumping up and snagging a game from nearly any opponnent if given the right conditions. Quote: |
Break down the game for us. Other than the setting, there have been a few noticeable changes. We've lost Marshawn Lynch, a spectator in Neyland, and most of our defensive stars from last year. You lost [WR Robert] Meachem and most of the dynamic receivers that tore up Cal last year, and you won't have Coker available this week. What will be the key changes and matchups that fans on both sides should look out for?
| You may have pegged it with those secondary-WR matchups. IMO, that is overwhelmingly the factor that contributed to Tennessee's dominance last year. Tennessee has the athleticism to find and exploit a weak spot again, I just don't think it will be on the outside this time. It's too early for a young WR corps to pull it off.
And I don't support 1904801 teams. I passively root for them. It's the Dallas Cowboys, Portland Trail Blazers, Tennessee Volunteers and Chicago Cubs.
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08-28-2007, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by vol_freak Here are the questions I came up with:
First of all, let's clear up some misconceptions about Tennessee students/alumni, namely that you aren't all rednecks. Tell us what your university has contributed to the academic landscape to get rid of those football sneers. | The University of Tennessee has over 300,000 alumni, 7 Rhodes Scholars and the forensic program is one of the best in the country.
The MBA program is 5th overall among U.S. public universities and the nuclear engineering graduate program is 10 nationally.
There are over 27,000 students here and only 120 (counting walk-ons), at best, play football Quote: |
There has long been a contention that SEC fans are more passionate and diehard in support of their teams, especially in contrast to the laid-back Pac-10. Having lived and travelled through the South in my formative years, I know how much you guys care about it, perhaps tooo much. Is this really a good thing, or does it burn you out (especially after a loss to Florida or LSU)?
| It never burns you out. The SEC is far and away the most competitive conference in the nation. You'll never see another team's fanbase point to what one team does as validation for their team losing. "We haven't played in the Rose Bowl because USC is in our conference." That excuse does not cut it in the SEC.
Every fan expects excellence, unless you root for Kentucky or Vanderbilt. This is about more than just football, it is a way of life. Nowhere else in the country will you see fans more dedicated to their teams than in the south. It is not a bad thing. Quote: |
I enjoy having the Warriors shock the world in May, the Giants and As stumbling to last place in summer, the 49ers and Raiders dancing down the standings. Tennessee has the Titans and the Vols. Would you like more sports, or is that all you need? What do you guys do the rest of the year in Knoxville to keep things hustling and bustling sports-wise?
| We watch Tennessee's basketball teams (men and women) compete for championships. Then we prepare for spring practice. Quote: |
I assume most of you were at Rocky Top last year. How much do you think the crowd contributed to the demolition of Cal? Or was the team that much better?
| Cal was blown away by the atmosphere at Neyland. Then they were torched on the field. Tennessee's team was a much more faster and athletic team than Cal was.
Also, a 5-6 season left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. The fans, coaches and players were ready to start the season off right. Quote: |
Why does UT seem to fall into complacency after certain games? You guys were dominant against us and then nearly got knocked off by Air Force the next week. Your teams have so much talent yet have fallen short ever since '98. Any idea where these lapses stem from? Does the team just get too psyched up after huge victories?
| The team looked ahead to Florida the following week. The coaches are responsible for that mistake, as well the leaders in the lockerroom.
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Break down the game for us. Other than the setting, there have been a few noticeable changes. We've lost Marshawn Lynch, a spectator in Neyland, and most of our defensive stars from last year. You lost [WR Robert] Meachem and most of the dynamic receivers that tore up Cal last year, and you won't have Coker available this week. What will be the key changes and matchups that fans on both sides should look out for?
| Last year Cal got dominated at the line of scrimmage by perhaps the worst offensive line in the last 15 seasons. This year, the emphasis has been on pounding the ball. Seeing as Cal returns the linebacker that could not tackle a 3rd string tailback, the chances of Cal winning the game are slim.
Forsett did next to nothing against UT last year and behind him are untested freshmen. Longshore is, at best, an "inept, clownfooted QB" according to Mike Silver, Cal alum who works for Sports Illustrated. DeSean Jackson got the large majority of his yards against UT's 2nd and 3rd string DBs, while not looking very impressive against UT's first string. |
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08-29-2007, 02:40 AM
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| Hey guys! Sorry about waiting so long to respond to this. I probably came off like a condescending ass in that interview, didn't mean it that way--I should have just started this thread.
I write a blog meant to help out college students, with Cal mostly in mind. I thought it'd be cool to get some insight from alumni/students on Tennessee's side before our biggest game this year (USC might be more important to some, but I know what it means countrywide).
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Originally Posted by jakez4ut and no, it never burns us out. we look forward to it every year. when we say football is like religion down here, we mean it. it's a topic 365 days a year, and we're perfectly happy with that. In other sports in other regions, the game is just that, a game. down here, whether you at the stadium or watching at home, the whole day is considered "an event". | I can see where you're coming from. I remember what football was like when I was down South (not Deep South, just crazy Florida)--it was so great just to sit back and watch twelve hours of football every Saturday. Even if I was living in Orlando and was stuck rooting for the Golden Knights choking to Auburn.
Cal football is depressingly different. Going to a game that doesn't involve beating down Stanford has sadly pedestrian crowds, and only the Student Section and younger alumni tend to get riled up. We have to be prodded to make noise on defense, although it's getting better year-by-year (baby steps). I guess all the money you make from those Berkeley degrees takes the passion out of the alumni. Well, and the fact that Cal football is a recent phenomenon--our program has stunk forever. Quote: |
good question. this has been debated over and over again on this board. the reality: it's hard to get up for every game. It's easy to get up for GA, FL, Bama, SC....all conf. rivals that can beat you on any given Saturday. You go in to a game against an AF or Duke or whatever, expecting to get a W. the reality of that situation, you get that kind of team's best shot. if you are not ready, look out. it happens to everyone at some point, remember the AZ game last season Cal?
| You're right, classic trap game. I could feel something was wrong by halftime; Longshore wasn't throwing right, the defense wasn't clicking right and was getting pounded down the field late. Awful game where everything that could go wrong did go wrong. And we sucked.
What are the big games for you other than Cal this year? Florida and LSU? Who are the top dogs this year in the SEC? Quote: |
Originally Posted by milohimself I wasn't there, but I'd say probably both. From all accounts I've heard, Autzen Stadium is the only Pac-10 stadium that is capable of producing noise in the same ballpark as SEC stadiums. And living in Oregon, I can tell you that's rare. It's only for those special visits like USC or Michigan. | I hear the UCLA games in the Rose Bowl can get pretty loud, and (when they don't stink) Husky stadium can get pretty crazy. But yeah, I think Oregon definitely ranks up there.
Is Neyland the loudest in the SEC? I know it's the largest. Quote: |
Originally Posted by justingroves You'll never see another team's fanbase point to what one team does as validation for their team losing. "We haven't played in the Rose Bowl because USC is in our conference." That excuse does not cut it in the SEC.
Every fan expects excellence, unless you root for Kentucky or Vanderbilt. This is about more than just football, it is a way of life. Nowhere else in the country will you see fans more dedicated to their teams than in the south. It is not a bad thing. | It's interesting. The SEC games definitely feel a thousand times more dramatic than other, but the gameplay itself can get downright sloppy. I watched a few games on TV last year--blocked punts, sloppy fumbles, botched snaps. It was ridiculous. No wonder you guys look much crisper playing OOC. It's just not as high-stakes.
The crowd really does have that much of an effect on a road team's psyche doesn't it? Or is the pressure of winning an SEC game so much that the players get caught up in it and struggle to perform at their best? Quote: |
Originally Posted by JZVOL Yes, every alum is a redneck. Just like I'm sure every Cal grad is a liberal tree-hugging scientologist. | They actually set up a church of Scientology behind the Indian restaurant downtown. I'm wondering how big their numbers are now. Quote:
Last year Cal got dominated at the line of scrimmage by perhaps the worst offensive line in the last 15 seasons. This year, the emphasis has been on pounding the ball. Seeing as Cal returns the linebacker that could not tackle a 3rd string tailback, the chances of Cal winning the game are slim.
Forsett did next to nothing against UT last year and behind him are untested freshmen. Longshore is, at best, an "inept, clownfooted QB" according to Mike Silver, Cal alum who works for Sports Illustrated. DeSean Jackson got the large majority of his yards against UT's 2nd and 3rd string DBs, while not looking very impressive against UT's first string.
| Longshore is a functional quarterback who rolls within the Tedford system. He does have problems with his release that baffle me (how do you have trouble completing 10 yard slants down the middle?), but he's very comfortable playing in front of the home crowd, and he has a stronger receiving corps than last year (most of his road performances last year were staggeringly bad). So we'll see what he does with what he has. He'll have to be great.
I think using last year's UT game as a metric is difficult, since Cal hasn't experienced that type of intensity from a crowd, ever. I can only hope they've learned. Otherwise those Vols/Trojans games are going to be long and bloody.
Does UT have any big weaknesses other than at the receiving end? And how is their special teams? (I know the SEC too well, special teams can get crazy).
Thanks for the replies, I'll compile the best of them up tomorrow! |
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Originally Posted by Bearsnecessity Does UT have any big weaknesses other than at the receiving end? And how is their special teams? (I know the SEC too well, special teams can get crazy).
Thanks for the replies, I'll compile the best of them up tomorrow! | Depth on the defensive line is also a concern this year. The secondary, while very young, has made a few waves in fall practices, but the verdict is still out on that group as well. Our receiver issues may have contributed to some of their success.
Special teams have recently been less than special. The Sloppy play that you described has marginalized our efforts in this area. However, the infusion of speed from the 2007 class has fans excited about big play potential on the return teams.
The best kicker on the team, Dustin Colquitt, has a tweaked quad. His natural position is punter, but he was going to be counted on to kickoff, and for field goals as well. If niether offense is clicking and the UT/Cal game turns into a battle for field position, this could be a problem for UT.
Some, including myself, hope that UT will have more team speed this year than last, and also have some expectation the offensive line to show slight improvement (at the least). For that reason, Cal fans should look for a healthy dose of UT's rushing offense. |
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08-29-2007, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by utvolpj I was gonna back Jake up but he did mangle that one pretty bad. Never claimed us logistics guys could spell  |  yeah, we're used to just telling the engineers what to do.......... Quote:
Originally Posted by allvol123 It was a simple mistake by Jake. Maybe we should request the mighty Californicated actually post something of any significance before he starts in on how much greater he is than all of us. |  thank you. though with as many times as i've probably dogged on someone on here for grammar, i deserve the ridicule......... Quote:
Originally Posted by milohimself And I don't support 1904801 teams. I passively root for them. It's the Dallas Cowboys, Portland Trail Blazers, Tennessee Volunteers and Chicago Cubs. | just havin' fun with ya Milo...... 
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08-29-2007, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearsnecessity What are the big games for you other than Cal this year? Florida and LSU? Who are the top dogs this year in the SEC? | LSU will only be big if we see them in the SEC CG...which would be just fine with me.....
but the usuals are FL, Bama, GA...those three are always big. but you can throw SC in the mix as well now...having that Spurrier/Fulmer thing going on again instantly added some spice to that matchup.
ARK will be a big game this year, simply because of how they beat us last year. a lot of people are looking to that game as a pretty good benchmark...can we contain DMC at all? or will we get pushed around up front......again.
the reality, with the SEC the way it is today, just about every conf. game is big. hell, if you believe what you read, KY is going to be a HUGE game at the end of the year.....
and with the rotating schedule you can usually count on at least 5-6 "big"conf. games a year....then throw in one big OOC game...the schedule just is chock full of big games...in the not too distant future, we have ooc games against OK, NEB, ORE, UCLA, NCSU, UNC...and it won't be long before Auburn rotates back on the schedule from the West.
over the next 10 years or so, the schedule for us will not be considered weak, that much i can tell you.
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