The Bama Scourge is about to hit the SEC

[VolBeef88]

Originally Posted by kptvol

I disagree here. However, even if he were an NFL failure, Pete Carroll has done pretty well for himself.

How can you not consider him a failure in the NFL? Look at his record. His players hated him and apparently so did his former assistant coaches from Mich ST as none of them followed him to a major power house school like LSU. I have no fear of him.

[Duckhook]

Originally Posted by kptvol

There are a lot of things wrong here.

No kidding. Let me make sure I've got this correct: Saban got lucky in the 01 SECCG BECAUSE his starting QB got injured. Nice take....I reckon.

The guy was 48-16 in 5 seasons, with 2 SEC titles and 1 NC. At a school that enjoyed 7 losing seasons during the previous 10 prior to his arrival. He's just lucky, and I'm not fearful at all.

[VolBeef88]

Originally Posted by Duckhook

No kidding. Let me make sure I've got this correct: Saban got lucky in the 01 SECCG BECAUSE his starting QB got injured. Nice take....I reckon.

The guy was 48-16 in 5 seasons, with 2 SEC titles and 1 NC. At a school that enjoyed 7 losing seasons during the previous 10 prior to his arrival. He's just lucky, and I'm not fearful at all.

1 ten win season at a school in a state that is LOADED with talent. Denardo left him a ton of talent. Be scared if you want.
Some of our fans look for resons to be scared of other teams. It amazes me.

[Bassmanbruno]

Originally Posted by Duckhook

No kidding. Let me make sure I've got this correct: Saban got lucky in the 01 SECCG BECAUSE his starting QB got injured. Nice take....I reckon.

The guy was 48-16 in 5 seasons, with 2 SEC titles and 1 NC. At a school that enjoyed 7 losing seasons during the previous 10 prior to his arrival. He's just lucky, and I'm not fearful at all.

He did get lucky that Mauck or whatever got to come in and play... he found a stud in his 2nd string QB who stepped up when they needed him... Mauck couldn't of dominated us if he was sitting on the bench.

[kptvol]

Originally Posted by VolBeef88

How can you not consider him a failure in the NFL? Look at his record. His players hated him and apparently so did his former assistant coaches from Mich ST as none of them followed him to a major power house school like LSU. I have no fear of him.

I think he improved a team that was in terrible disarray when he arrived. He got really hosed in the Culpepper-Brees QB debate. He took Culpepper, but that was largely because his doctors told him that Brees wasn't ready. The Phins were incredibly reliant on Ricky Williams. His last significant season in Miami he touched the ball on 75% of offensive snaps. Without him, that team took a serious plunge. I think in a couple more years Saban would have had that team going to the playoffs. If he were in the NFC, he probably would have gotten them there last year.

[Duckhook]

Originally Posted by VolBeef88

1 ten win season at a school in a state that is LOADED with talent. Denardo left him a ton of talent. Be scared if you want.
Some of our fans look for resons to be scared of other teams. It amazes me.

Do you measure success by 10 win seasons, or by championships? I'd take winning the SEC 40% of the time and be perfectly happy......and don't be fooled: LSU would have won AT LEAST one more over the past 2 seasons if Saban had never left. Possibly both with the talent he had amassed.

[VolBeef88]

Originally Posted by kptvol

I think he improved a team that was in terrible disarray when he arrived. He got really hosed in the Culpepper-Brees QB debate. He took Culpepper, but that was largely because his doctors told him that Brees wasn't ready. The Phins were incredibly reliant on Ricky Williams. His last significant season in Miami he touched the ball on 75% of offensive snaps. Without him, that team took a serious plunge. I think in a couple more years Saban would have had that team going to the playoffs. If he were in the NFC, he probably would have gotten them there last year.

Saban had TOTAL controll of that team. HE made the decisions that led them to losing. You can make excuses for him and sit in fear if you want. In his entire career as a coach he has exactly 2 ten win seasons. He is a good coach but not all that some are making him.

[VolBeef88]

Originally Posted by Duckhook

Do you measure success by 10 win seasons, or by championships? I'd take winning the SEC 40% of the time and be perfectly happy......and don't be fooled: LSU would have won AT LEAST one more over the past 2 seasons if Saban had never left. Possibly both with the talent he had amassed.

yes because he had no talent his final year?

Look sit in fear if you want.

[kptvol]

Originally Posted by VolBeef88

Saban had TOTAL controll of that team. HE made the decisions that led them to losing. You can make excuses for him and sit in fear if you want. In his entire career as a coach he has exactly 2 ten win seasons. He is a good coach but not all that some are making him.

I'm not sitting in fear. Will Bama be significantly better next year? Yes. When was the last time we delivered a beatdown to the Tide? 2001. Since then, we are 3-2. We beat them by one score last year. They'll be a lot better last year. We need to improve from 2006, or I think we will lose. Hopefully UT will make a bigger leap than Bama. We'll see in October.

[Bassmanbruno]

Originally Posted by kptvol

I'm not sitting in fear. Will Bama be significantly better next year? Yes. When was the last time we delivered a beatdown to the Tide? 2001. Since then, we are 3-2. We beat them by one score last year. They'll be a lot better last year. We need to improve from 2006, or I think we will lose. Hopefully UT will make a bigger leap than Bama. We'll see in October.

What are you talking about? We are 3-1 against them since 2001..

Remember? We didn't play them in 2005!

[VolBeef88]

Originally Posted by kptvol

I'm not sitting in fear. Will Bama be significantly better next year? Yes. When was the last time we delivered a beatdown to the Tide? 2001. Since then, we are 3-2. We beat them by one score last year. They'll be a lot better last year. We need to improve from 2006, or I think we will lose. Hopefully UT will make a bigger leap than Bama. We'll see in October.

That game is almost always a tight game. In history the better team has lost almost as many times as they have won.

I dont think he is a bad coach at all, but I'm not ready to crown him yet. And bammer should be better this year. They would have been better if Shula had stayed.

[Duckhook]

in the ability of some to remember and recognize what happened in Neyland back in October 2002. For the ONLY time in the last 10 years, we all saw what Bama was capable of when actually led by a competent head coach. CPF has made a career off of 2 men: Mike DuBose and Mike Shula. The realists among us recognize the tables about to turn if UT doesn't raise its game, starting at the top. I was happy to see Franconie leave, but always knew that the situation there would improve at some point. Just never thought they'd land one of the top few coaches in the land. Call it fear if you want, but we'll all just have to wait and see.

[The Dude]

Yes, I'm worried about the Tide game this year. With their passing game and our 1 returning starter in the defensive backfield, the outlook there is not so good. But some think Wade was speedster simply freestyling it, so I'm sure he will be easily replaced by a true freshman.

[kptvol]

Originally Posted by The Dude

Yes, I'm worried about the Tide game this year. With their passing game and our 1 returning starter in the defensive backfield, the outlook there is not so good. But some think Wade was speedster simply freestyling it, so I'm sure he will be easily replaced by a true freshman.

The reason he was drafted so high was his speed. That is all anyone has said.

[lacrossepro70]

Hello. Cutcliffe anyone? when was the last time he lost to Bama at UT?