Why now is the time

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Ethan Hooper

Ethan Hooper

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Let me start by saying that I've stayed behind Butch longer than most. Having said that, there will not be a better time than now to move on. Butch's defenders can talk about buyouts until they're blue in the face, but that is no reason why we can't make a good hire should we decide to make a change. Butch Jones is in his fifth year. Our offensive line is atrocious. Our defense is not good. We are struggling against an 0-4 UMass. There is a very real chance that Butch will be 2-3 against Vanderbilt after this season. I could go on and on. Let all of that sink in for a moment. This is year five. Butch has had half a decade to bring in his players and coach them up. He has had all the time a coach should need to turn a program around. Regardless of whether or not you want to deal with another buyout, this game is about winning and losing. When it becomes this obvious that a coach will not get the job done, it's time to move on. There will not be a better time to move on than now. There is so much talent on this team. It might be the second or third most talented roster in the conference. The longer we keep Butch, the more likely it is that recruiting goes downhill due to poor performances on the field. Why not let the next coach inherit the abundance of talent that we have on the roster so he can hit the ground running. Another factor that needs to be considered are the other jobs that might come open. There won't be many jobs, if any, that will be as appealing as Tennessee. Notre Dame, Texas A&M, and Auburn could come open, but I doubt they all do. There is a chance none do. We have the talent to compete immediately. We have facilities that are as good as you will find, and even with a buyout, we should still be able to pay our new coach a good amount. Regardless of what happens, I'll still tune in every Saturday. I love my Vols not matter what, but I think it's time to take the next step. We owe Coach Jones a thank you for cleaning up the mess that Dooley left, but I don't theink he can take us all the way. GBO.
 
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To me, the Out Carolina and Vandy game last year was the equivalent of Dooley Missouri and Vanderbilt blunder in his final season.

This season will just be a continuation of last year.
 
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orangepridenation said:
Hate to be that guy, but paragraphs are your friend.
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I'm not really worried about paragraphs right now. I've been out of school for a while, my job doesn't require me to write long paragraphs, and I have no interest in becoming an author. I'll consider it a win if that's all anyone doesn't like about my post. Keep being that guy if you want.
 
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Watch what Mullen does tonight against UGA and then we'll revisit that thread from earlier this week
 
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Ethan Hooper said:
Let me start by saying that I've stayed behind Butch longer than most. Having said that, there will not be a better time than now to move on. Butch's defenders can talk about buyouts until they're blue in the face, but that is no reason why we can't make a good hire should we decide to make a change. Butch Jones is in his fifth year. Our offensive line is atrocious. Our defense is not good. We are struggling against an 0-4 UMass. There is a very real chance that Butch will be 2-3 against Vanderbilt after this season. I could go on and on. Let all of that sink in for a moment. This is year five. Butch has had half a decade to bring in his players and coach them up. He has had all the time a coach should need to turn a program around. Regardless of whether or not you want to deal with another buyout, this game is about winning and losing. When it becomes this obvious that a coach will not get the job done, it's time to move on. There will not be a better time to move on than now. There is so much talent on this team. It might be the second or third most talented roster in the conference. The longer we keep Butch, the more likely it is that recruiting goes downhill due to poor performances on the field. Why not let the next coach inherit the abundance of talent that we have on the roster so he can hit the ground running. Another factor that needs to be considered are the other jobs that might come open. There won't be many jobs, if any, that will be as appealing as Tennessee. Notre Dame, Texas A&M, and Auburn could come open, but I doubt they all do. There is a chance none do. We have the talent to compete immediately. We have facilities that are as good as you will find, and even with a buyout, we should still be able to pay our new coach a good amount. Regardless of what happens, I'll still tune in every Saturday. I love my Vols not matter what, but I think it's time to take the next step. We owe Coach Jones a thank you for cleaning up the mess that Dooley left, but I don't theink he can take us all the way. GBO.
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Two years ago would have been significantly better.
 
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Ethan Hooper said:
I'm not really worried about paragraphs right now. I've been out of school for a while, my job doesn't require me to right long paragraphs, and I have no interest in becoming an author. I'll consider it a win if that's all anyone doesn't like about my post. Keep being that guy if you want.
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Write
 
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Its very possible that we only win 1 conference game, Missouri. Then again, our defense is pretty sorry so I doubt we win that one.

We are going to see how good of a hire Currie was in the coming weeks. If he is even a decent AD then he will give Butch an ultimatum for the Georgia game. Lose and your gone.
 
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Ethan Hooper said:
Let me start by saying that I've stayed behind Butch longer than most. Having said that, there will not be a better time than now to move on. Butch's defenders can talk about buyouts until they're blue in the face, but that is no reason why we can't make a good hire should we decide to make a change. Butch Jones is in his fifth year. Our offensive line is atrocious. Our defense is not good. We are struggling against an 0-4 UMass. There is a very real chance that Butch will be 2-3 against Vanderbilt after this season. I could go on and on. Let all of that sink in for a moment. This is year five. Butch has had half a decade to bring in his players and coach them up. He has had all the time a coach should need to turn a program around. Regardless of whether or not you want to deal with another buyout, this game is about winning and losing. When it becomes this obvious that a coach will not get the job done, it's time to move on. There will not be a better time to move on than now. There is so much talent on this team. It might be the second or third most talented roster in the conference. The longer we keep Butch, the more likely it is that recruiting goes downhill due to poor performances on the field. Why not let the next coach inherit the abundance of talent that we have on the roster so he can hit the ground running. Another factor that needs to be considered are the other jobs that might come open. There won't be many jobs, if any, that will be as appealing as Tennessee. Notre Dame, Texas A&M, and Auburn could come open, but I doubt they all do. There is a chance none do. We have the talent to compete immediately. We have facilities that are as good as you will find, and even with a buyout, we should still be able to pay our new coach a good amount. Regardless of what happens, I'll still tune in every Saturday. I love my Vols not matter what, but I think it's time to take the next step. We owe Coach Jones a thank you for cleaning up the mess that Dooley left, but I don't theink he can take us all the way. GBO.
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Tl;Dr but yea fire Butch
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Its very possible that we only win 1 conference game, Missouri. Then again, our defense is pretty sorry so I doubt we win that one.

We are going to see how good of a hire Currie was in the coming weeks. If he is even a decent AD then he will give Butch an ultimatum for the Georgia game. Lose and your gone.
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IMO if Currie was a good hire, he has already made his decision.

Now it is up to him to sell the firing to administration and boosters.
 
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I'm sure it won't happen, but after this coaching performance it would not surprise me; if Butch gets fired (soon) we all need to go streaking through the quad, to celebrate.
 
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#24
The complainers about Butch Jones have been doing so for so long, and without merit, that you have lost what little credibility you ever may have had.
 
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kxtop said:
The complainers about Butch Jones have been doing so for so long, and without merit, that you have lost what little credibility you ever may have had.
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Sorry, the criticism was totally justified. Here ya go.

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