It's the coaching staff's inconsistency that's so hard to swallow

#1
KnoxRealtorVOL

KnoxRealtorVOL

First of his name
Joined
Jan 26, 2010
Messages
17,734
Likes
30,998
#1
It seems like every time there is an absolute, "you will have a successful season if you win" type of game Butch and company lay an egg. Tonight's game against Mizzou, and Butch's past two against Florida immediately come to mind (among others). They only seem to do well in the games that aren't necessarily "must-win" games.

Yes I know, Florida and Mizzou are better defenses. That doesn't excuse becoming DRAMATICALLY less creative with playcalling. Look at South Carolina: wildcats to Hurd, wildcat to Hurd where he hands off to Pig for a jet sweep, designed runs with Dobbs to the outside.

Now look at tonight: I swear it felt like we ran AT MOST four different plays. 11 carries for Hurd???? How does that even happen, he's literally the only running back we have. I had this same feeling after the Florida game this year. It felt like we could not have been more vanilla.

Does Mizzou have a better defense than Alabama? No, we were just creative against Alabama. The truth is, Alabama wasn't a "must-win" by any means, and our offense was successful because of the mixed up playcalling.

Not one downfield screen pass tonight? How many times did Dobbs air it out? A reverse may have been nice at some point. When your O-line sucks you have to get creative. It seemed the coaches finally had that figured out, then tonight we went right back to the Florida game again. Major steps backwards.

But whatever Butch/ Bajakian, keep throwing it out in the flat, which everyone can see coming a mile away. I'm sure one day we'll get to win number six. But just a heads up, Florida just fired their coach for doing better than you're doing.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 12 people
#5
#5
We have a right tackle walk on with a torn acl going up against a top ten nfl draft pick, give us Georgia's offensive line, and this game is with out a doubt a W
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#6
#6
South Carolina was a must win. Creative play calling and trick plays are great but my god they were in the back field all night with a 4 man front. I cannot stress that fact enough. People have kind have been fooled into thinking our line has improved but it hasn't been them improving but Dobbs buying more time. 4/5 different times tonigh Dobbs came so close to getting away but it's just that much harder when playing A defense that can get pressure without many blitzs.

Also people don't give mizzou enough credit, they are going to the sec championship bc they are a good team.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 6 people
#7
#7
Persian Vol said:
We have a right tackle walk on with a torn acl going up against a top ten nfl draft pick, give us Georgia's offensive line, and this game is with out a doubt a W
Click to expand...

Cool excuse man. I'll be sure and throw that one on the pile. Now maybe our coaches should show what they get paid 6 and 7 figures for every year, and find out how to combat that disadvantage. I'm no football coach, but I would bet everything I have that you don't combat it by closing the playbook.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#8
#8
govols2008 said:
South Carolina was a must win. Creative play calling and trick plays are great but my god they were in the back field all night with a 4 man front. I cannot stress that fact enough. People have kind have been fooled into thinking our line has improved but it hasn't been them improving but Dobbs buying more time. 4/5 different times tonigh Dobbs came so close to getting away but it's just that much harder when playing A defense that can get pressure without many blitzs.

Also people don't give mizzou enough credit, they are going to the sec championship bc they are a good team.
Click to expand...

They're going to the sec championship because they're just good enough to beat up on a crappy division. If they were in the west they'd be struggling to get to a bowl
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#9
#9
chatt-townVOL said:
Cool excuse man. I'll be sure and throw that one on the pile. Now maybe our coaches should show what they get paid 6 and 7 figures for every year, and find out how to combat that disadvantage. I'm no football coach, but I would bet everything I have that you don't combat it by closing the playbook.
Click to expand...
Its hard to win when you can't block up front. The MU D-Line lived in our backfield tonight. We lost because we got whipped up front. It sucks but that's just the way it is.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#10
#10
govols2008 said:
South Carolina was a must win. Creative play calling and trick plays are great but my god they were in the back field all night with a 4 man front. I cannot stress that fact enough. People have kind have been fooled into thinking our line has improved but it hasn't been them improving but Dobbs buying more time. 4/5 different times tonigh Dobbs came so close to getting away but it's just that much harder when playing A defense that can get pressure without many blitzs.

Also people don't give mizzou enough credit, they are going to the sec championship bc they are a good team.
Click to expand...
Spot On
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#13
#13
Most realistic fans had us going 6-6. Unless something disasterous happens next Saturday thats right where we'll finish.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#14
#14
Jet sweeps and Wildcats are out of the question when you have DE's getting in the backfield in less than 2 seconds. Sometimes I question posters FB knowledge.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#15
#15
People bashing our coaches only provide undisputed proof of their total lack of real football knowledge and of where our team and depth issues really are.

I had a hard time this summer finding 6 wins and that reality really sucked.

Now I can see 6 wins, 15 extra practices and getting to a bowl game again after far too many 5 win seasons.

I also see next year being better and that we're recruiting and rebuilding well and I'd say we're a year ahead of schedule.

I'd sure love more wins this year but I never expected more than 6 if we were lucky playing so many true freshmen so much.

#BrickbyBrick...VFL...GBO!!!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#18
#18
dduncan4163 said:
Its hard to win when you can't block up front. The MU D-Line lived in our backfield tonight. We lost because we got whipped up front. It sucks but that's just the way it is.
Click to expand...

So the answer to getting beat up front is to have the QB handle the ball 54 times( 17 rush, 37 pass for Dobbs) and give it to the stud freshman RB 11 times?

It makes sense in the Big East I guess.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#19
#19
chatt-townVOL said:
It seems like every time there is an absolute, "you will have a successful season if you win" type of game Butch and company lay an egg. Tonight's game against Mizzou, and Butch's past two against Florida immediately come to mind (among others). They only seem to do well in the games that aren't necessarily "must-win" games.

Yes I know, Florida and Mizzou are better defenses. That doesn't excuse becoming DRAMATICALLY less creative with playcalling. Look at South Carolina: wildcats to Hurd, wildcat to Hurd where he hands off to Pig for a jet sweep, designed runs with Dobbs to the outside.

Now look at tonight: I swear it felt like we ran AT MOST four different plays. 11 carries for Hurd???? How does that even happen, he's literally the only running back we have. I had this same feeling after the Florida game this year. It felt like we could not have been more vanilla.

Does Mizzou have a better defense than Alabama? No, we were just creative against Alabama. The truth is, Alabama wasn't a "must-win" by any means, and our offense was successful because of the mixed up playcalling.

Not one downfield screen pass tonight? How many times did Dobbs air it out? A reverse may have been nice at some point. When your O-line sucks you have to get creative. It seemed the coaches finally had that figured out, then tonight we went right back to the Florida game again. Major steps backwards.

But whatever Butch/ Bajakian, keep throwing it out in the flat, which everyone can see coming a mile away. I'm sure one day we'll get to win number six. But just a heads up, Florida just fired their coach for doing better than you're doing.
Click to expand...

I agree with you 100%.
Our play calling was so damn predictable it was embarrassing.
Hurd, Dobbs, Hurd, Dobbs, all night.
That is all they had to defend against.
 
#20
#20
Our O-line got manhandled, period...
I just wish we would have tried to get into scoring position at the end of the 1st Half...It's like we wait for 3 ,minutes left in the game to play with a sense of urgency
 
#21
#21
Titan&Volfan4life said:
People bashing our coaches only provide undisputed proof of their total lack of real football knowledge and of where our team and depth issues really are.

I had a hard time this summer finding 6 wins and that reality really sucked.

Now I can see 6 wins, 15 extra practices and getting to a bowl game again after far too many 5 win seasons.

I also see next year being better and that we're recruiting and rebuilding well and I'd say we're a year ahead of schedule.

I'd sure love more wins this year but I never expected more than 6 if we were lucky playing so many true freshmen so much.

#BrickbyBrick...VFL...GBO!!!
Click to expand...

A yr ahead of schedule dude seriously... This staff is lucky that sc suxs so bad or our record would equal last yrs.. Sorry but I would say at best slightly on schedule..
 
#22
#22
chatt-townVOL said:
Cool excuse man. I'll be sure and throw that one on the pile. Now maybe our coaches should show what they get paid 6 and 7 figures for every year, and find out how to combat that disadvantage. I'm no football coach, but I would bet everything I have that you don't combat it by closing the playbook.
Click to expand...

You also can't combat everything with the play book. It kills me how people don't get that you can't simply playcall your way out of all offensive problems.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#23
#23
Bad game all around.
North and Johnson hurt on both sides. Just a reminder of our depth issues.
Played safe too long to protect Dobbs. Has shown he can go down field. Waited too long.
Rather go down swinging than sitting on our hands.
Oline struggled.
Regroup and get #6.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#24
#24
GAVol said:
You also can't combat everything with the play book. It kills me how people don't get that you can't simply playcall your way out of all offensive problems.
Click to expand...

We faced an NFL caliber D-line last night, and they absolutely destroyed our O-line most of the night. Play calling was the least of our worries most of the time last night.
 
#25
#25
g8terh8ter_eric said:
We faced an NFL caliber D-line last night, and they absolutely destroyed our O-line most of the night. Play calling was the least of our worries most of the time last night.
Click to expand...

Why is that so hard to understand? I think people actually think Dobbs wanted to dump it to the safety valve 15 times and didn't want to go downfield.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top