Third Down for What?

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Brak

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So, with our introduction of the "3rd Down for What" mantra this season it got me thinking about how well we are doing at stopping our opponent on third down compared to previous seasons. We all remember "3rd and Chavis" but we are 6 seasons removed from that time and I thought it would be interesting to take a quick snap shot of how we have fared over the past few seasons. I would have liked to go all the way back to the Chavis era but I not willing to go back 6 years and then an additional 3 to get a good sample size. So this is what I came up with after looking at the numbers.

2011
Montana - 7/16
Cincinnati -5/12
Florida * - 4/13
Buffalo - 3/13
Georgia * - 3/12
LSU * - 6/12
Alabama * - 7/14
USC * - 10/18
MTN State - 3/11
Arkansas * - 5/9
Vanderbilt * - 6/16
Kentucky * - 4/16

Total: 63/162 39% conversion
First 3 games: 16/41 42% conversion
Rest of the year (9 games): 47/121 39% conversion

2012
North Carolina - 6/16
Georgia State - 4/19
Florida * - 3/13
Akron - 5/15
Georgia * - 6/11
Mississippi State * - 4/14
Alabama * - 6/12
South Carolina * - 6/15
Troy - 10/19
Missouri * - 8/20
Vanderbilt * - 5/16
Kentucky * - 10/21

Total: 73/191 38% conversion
First 3 games: 13/48 27% conversion
Rest of the year (9 games): 60/143 42% conversion

2013
Austin Peay - 2/12
Western Kentucky - 8/15
Oregon - 6/12
Florida * - 10/18
South Alabama - 7/17
Georgia * - 4/13
South Carolina * - 4/14
Alabama * - 7/11
Missouri * - 10/19
Auburn * - 4/9
Vanderbilt * - 4/13
Kentucky * - 5/14

Total: 71/167 43% conversion
First 3 games: 16/39 41% conversion
Rest of the year (9 games): 55/128 43% conversion


2014
Utah State - 3/14
Arkansas St - 4/17
Oklahoma - 3/12

Total: 10/43 23% conversion

With the exception of 2012 (Sal Sunseri year) the first 3 games stayed realtively close with the season percentage. Now this is in no way a prediction that we will be able to maintain a 23% conversion rate for the rest of the year but it is encouraging to see improvement moving forward. This is our best start in the past 3 years, in this category, against 3 teams with a mobile QB. Hopefully our defense can be the difference in a couple of games this year to help us get to a bowl.
 
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#5
#5
I thought this mantra was a statement about our offense. It's more fitting for our defense.
 
#7
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One issue with the data set (especially with Sunseri) was that we did not see enough third downs due to the large gains made on 1st and 2nd or that 3rd was mostly 3rd and very short.
 
#9
#9
I believe other schools are also doing the third down for what, before the season's over it might be a shorter list of who's not using it.
 
#10
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One issue with the data set (especially with Sunseri) was that we did not see enough third downs due to the large gains made on 1st and 2nd or that 3rd was mostly 3rd and very short.

I agree, this is in no way an exact science but I found it interesting to look at nevertheless.
 
#11
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Would be interesting to see a comparison of "splash" plays allowed. Those being defined by Butch as plays of 20+ yards. It seemed like that Sunseri D gave up an average of 20 yards per play.
 
#12
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Would be interesting to see a comparison of "splash" plays allowed. Those being defined by Butch as plays of 20+ yards. It seemed like that Sunseri D gave up an average of 20 yards per play.

Sunseri was an idiot incapable of being a DC that was hired by another incompetent negligent piece of trash that had no business being a football coach of a Pop Warner team much less a head coach at UT. That moron was hired by yet another incompetent person where the job was far too big for him.

No wonder we're in the shape we find ourselves in. Incompetence breeds incompetence.
 
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I think Sunseri was atrocious as a DC, but the 2012 3rd down % for first 3 games and remainder of the season are probably also related to Brian Randolph's ACL.
 

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